No, you're making the mistake if you interpret that I'm considering a single 
case.

When I read any proposed document, I try to think ahead in what can be wrong 
"in the future" not just according to the past, because clearly the goal is to 
avoid issues in the future. The past only tells us what was wrong, but the past 
has no "exclusivity" and can't be taken "alone".

As you say, precisely because there is no abundance of volunteers, we can't 
have the risk that anyone may be excluded.

Also, see how the other RIRs that have "TF" (called also WGs), APNIC and 
LACNIC, don't have any way to restrict participation.

Recently in APNIC there was a call for volunteers for a WG to review the 
complete policy manual. There were over 130 volunteers if I recall correctly, 
that joined the mailing list. However, the real participation was about 4-5 
people, and we did the job by splitting the most important changes in different 
policy proposals, all resolved by the very small set of people and almost all 
them reached consensus. No issues!

Another example is a running WG in LACNIC, for making a single policy proposal 
for the chairs elections process, as they were 2 competing policy proposals and 
we could say that they were almost a copy of the earlier one, so the chairs 
couldn't determine consensus (or actually I must say that both should have 
reached consensus). The call for the WG was open, only 5 people joined and we 
are doing the job. Again, no issues.


Regards,
Jordi
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El 10/4/22, 22:49, "ripe-list en nombre de Gert Doering" 
<[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:

    Hi,

    On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 08:01:23PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via 
ripe-list wrote:
    > Clearly the goal is to get the job done.
    > 
    > If TF members "a, b and c" agree to work on that, but they disagree to 
work with "d, e and f", and "d, e and f" have no problem to work with "a, b and 
c", the ones that are avoiding the work to be done is "a, b and c", not the 
others.

    Jordi, your cases are hypothetical.

    You are making a big fuzz out of one (1) task force that did not want
    to let you (Jordi) join.  Get over it.

    There is no general abundance of volunteers that are denied entry in
    large numbers of task forces of great importance in RIPE land.

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