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Töma,

Please refrain from listing me in any group, thank you.

This mailing list is not a debates club and not a platform for arguments of 
each side, serious issues were raised, please allow RIPE NCC to answer instead 
of creating noise and distraction.

Kind Regards,
Elad
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On Saturday, October 29th, 2022 at 8:28 PM, Töma Gavrichenkov 
<[email protected]> wrote:


> Peace,
> 
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2022, 6:40 pm Lu Heng, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Community scrutiny does not in anyway means I speak for anyone else but by 
> > myself.
> 
> 
> Obviously it means exactly that, if it is a "community" scrutiny, and not a 
> "Lu Heng" scrutiny.
> 
> This is kind of the definition of it, innit?
> 
> A community scrutiny is not a "community member" scrutiny. It is a process 
> that has been approved by rough consensus across the community. Otherwise the 
> board and the NCC would've been overwhelmed with individual requests under 
> the "community scrutiny" disguise.
> 
> Your individual concern is your individual concern.
> 
> Before pretending that your e-mail is a "community scrutiny", you should've 
> had initiated a proper process in the community and evaluated the outcome, if 
> any.
> 
> E.g. organizing a BoF session is an example of a *beginning* of a proper 
> process (to the contrary, and quite notably, submitting a lightning talk 
> candidate is not). You did not do that.
> 
> Another way of seeking confirmation that an issue, which is presumably 
> important to you, is also not nothing for the community is sending an e-mail 
> about this issue to the community mailing list and receiving support in 
> feedback. You did send such an e-mail 5 days ago, but the support you've 
> received since then is hardly distinguishable from none.
> 
> If this is a community request, then the community we're speaking of is 
> basically you, Elad, and in any case no more than 2 more individuals. Not the 
> RIPE community.
> 
> --
> Töma
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