Sadly that seems to be the norm for smaller independent artists. Unless you're one of the lucky ones or a big record label you are basically being conned out of money.

Even from the streaming point of view, we have been talking with the UK licensing authority (PRS and VPL) both of them want money and both of them straight away demanded to know how long we'd been streaming. They then wanted back payments for the last 15 years even though we don't stream to the UK market (India and Pakistan mainly).

Thankfully they calmed down when they finally realised Live 365 had a cross licence agreement with the UK but you could hear the disappointment in their voices that they weren't getting more money. As a small broadcaster PRS etc are really quite threatening organisations and they have very little idea about the realities of Internet streaming.

To be 100% legal with no grey area (they never give you a proper answer because they don't know) we have to: * Pay all UK royalties because we are based here (even though most of our songs are from India/Pakistan who don't really have a royalties authority like we do in the UK)
* Ban anyone from listening who is not in the UK
* Talk to every country that people are listening to our stream and pay for licensing there too

It is so far beyond a mess it beggars belief.

On 2016-01-29 11:34, Cowboy wrote:
On 01/28/2016 12:29 PM, Wayne Merricks wrote:
However, the real problem with Live 365 going away is not the
streaming.  You now need your own agreement with whatever licensing
authorities you have to comply with.  In the UK this is not cheap at
all.

 Hear ! Hear !

And, they are trying hard to make it as expensive and onerous as possible here, under the guise of "royalties" for the artists, living or dead.

 Interesting that one artist I happen to know, literally walked into
the Sound Exchange offices in Wash. D.C. to inquire about his royalty
 payments, and was told that he couldn't be found !

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