Hi Fred!
On 10/25/21 6:38 PM, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:19, Alejandro olivan Alvarez
<alejandro.olivan.alva...@gmail.com
<mailto:alejandro.olivan.alva...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Regarding Fade-Down, I think this is the easy one: I understand that,
whenever you put the mark on, RDAirplay, when reaching the mark, will
start unconditionally to fade down, FROM that point, onwards... If
that's the case, It's unclear to me to which level the fading down
will reach (I asume -40dB , or whatever 'mute' level the machine is
at) and how long will take the fading lasts (to the end of the song,
linearly, for some amount of predefined time, linearly, etc). The way
I imagine fade-down use-case, it is meant to be put close to the end
of the song (so I can have a trailing bass drum base faded down)...
any hints? Am I very wrong?
Regarding Fade-Up, I'm quite confused... what is supposed to happen
in RDAirplay at this mark? if It will start fading up, to full level
(0 db I guess) FROM that point on, what is the level before it? does
the presence of such mark imply that everything before the mark gets
muted? or, on the contrary, the mark indicates the point where/when
full level is reached AT?... and, if so, where in time does the
fading up starts? could someone clarify?
The ‘base points’ for FadeUp and FadeDown are the ‘Start’ and ‘End’
markers, respectively; with the ‘mute level’ being (rather
arbitrarily) defined to be -46 dBFS (-30 dB from the “reference level”
as shown by Rivendell’s meters. The fades (both up and down) are
logarithmic, meaning that they should be perceived as being “uniform”
to the typical human listener.
Nice to know! logarithmic fading.
What I have to figure up is whether Fade Up mark goes BEFORE Cut start,
to achieve the fading UP or not.
And the inverse at the end of track: first Fade-down being reached,
triggering fade down until reaching End-cut.
With all of that said, I’ve found that FadeUp and FadeDown are very
seldom used at most Rivendell sites. There are a couple of niche
cases, but they are quite rare. Were I redesigning the cart/cut model
from scratch, I would very likely drop those two functions entirely.
Curiously, those marks (provide they do what I think... and/or I manage
to learn how to use them correctly) would be very very useful to me (and
for any Dance/Electronic music radiostation). Because, for some tune
styles (mostly trance music, but also techno, minimal house, deep
house.... anything non-commercial, either deep or chill) you don't want
a 'radio edit'; there's nothing wrong to have a full, or almost-full,
length track aired including most of its in/out bases... but you don't
want them to start right at full level from the very first beat either,
but rather a short, smooth fade up for the first bar.
Cheers!
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