On Oct 27, 2021, at 22:52, Chuck <dj.chuc...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Adding a +1 for this comment.  I am no longer in the commercial end of the 
> business, but rather, with a non-comm; however, I would think the fade up and 
> down ability is more important than ever.  The 2 biggest radio chains 
> operating in town have eliminated the job of production director and the 
> production studios are no longer maintained with their switch to contract 
> engineers, who are only called when something in the main studio dies 
> completely.  Whereas the production director used to comb and massage every 
> bit of audio that was carted, including the segue cue at a cart’s end, audio 
> is now added with no production pre-prep at all.
> 
> In fact, we do not have a production department, either.  We don’t play the 
> count-off or extraneous studio talk prior to the musical start of any song 
> (except for “Daydream Believer”), and we fade out of any applause quickly.  
> All that is done with the fade up and down markers.  I would think with the 
> contraction of jobs in commercial radio the ability to fade within Rivendell 
> would be more important today than in the past, when everything on-air, first 
> passed through a production department.

Some very helpful comments! The original Rivendell design (ca. almost twenty 
years ago, yeeks!) did indeed explicitly posit the preproduction of all 
elements before they were loaded into the automation. Sadly though, your 
experience does seem to have become the mainstream reality in many facilities 
today.

Cheers!


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