Just a few thoughts on the process...

In order to graduate, River needs to have a community of committers who know how to design, build, test, and release code "the Apache way". So there are both building code and growing the community activities to accomplish.

Seems to me that getting a reasonable AR2 shipped is priority 1, followed by migrating the package names, and building a release.next that has the Apache branding (package naming, documentation).

So let's focus on what's needed for AR2 including getting "patches that have not been committed yet" into the repository.

Craig

On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:14 AM, Jools wrote:

Personally I'd like to see the change sooner, rather than later.

If it's a blocker for graduation, then I think we should take it as a high
priority.

--Jools


2008/11/10 Mark Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Dennis,

Good to see you want to contribute, but personally I'm not that fond
of this rather big change for AR2. There are some patches that have
not been committed yet and that are subject to this change as well.
There are some rather large changes to the codebase that I'm not going
to get in before AR2 and that would be much harder to merge with the
River codebase once RIVER-261 has been committed.

I realize that RIVER-261 needs to be done before graduation, but
personally I would prefer it to do it once we have proofed that we
have   a community that can graduate. RIVER-261 doesn't bring added
value to the codebase itself, although no doubt some will think
differently, but
will have a lot of consequences. At least going forward with RIVER-261
at this stage would disconnect me completely with River given the
limited time I have for the time being.

People could utilize AR1 as drop in replacement for the JTSK releases, if RIVER-261 is part of AR2 it can't act as such when this is committed.

Curious to know how others feel about this ...
--
Mark Brouwer



Craig L Russell
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