Hey,

The KDE version shipping with the latest Mandrake is scaled
down and simplified for the end user. During install it
specifically asks if the user is new to the desktop
environment and adjusts the menus accordingly. Might be
worth looking into.


--- Dennis Bagley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because of the "level" of users at the Fair office, we
> are expecting that a 
> full GUI under X-windows
> would be simplest (probably KDE or GNOME.)  The
> accounting software 
> products being considered
> are Quasar, SQL Ledger and Lazy Eight Ledger.  Office
> suite will be Open 
> Office due to it's compatibility
> with M$ products and probably the Mozilla suite or
> Evolution for browser 
> and email, though that's still open.
> Based on a few things I looked at, maybe the Ximian
> desktop should be 
> considered, though I would like to hear
> from anybody who has actually used it in a corporate
> environment.
> 
> I have some concerns that P-II's may not be fully up to
> the tasks under the 
> latest kernel,
> if for no other reason than we need to keep support
> requirements as low as 
> possible and
> speed high.
> 
> Of course some of you may have another view.  Perhaps
> creating a really 
> beefy server
> then running all the other nodes as thin clients would
> enable using P-II's.
> 
> But remember the end users are:
>      A. New to Linux (most have never even seen it
> before)
>      B. In some cases not even regular users of PCs
>      C. Probably older than, shall we say, the median age
> of the RLUG 
> membership.
>              with substantially less computer experience,
> of any kind.
>      D. Will want their hands held, for at least a little
> while.
>      E. There will NOT be an in-house computer geek on
> staff.
> 
> 
> At 01:04 PM 12/30/2003, Johnny Lau wrote:
> >Hi, Everyone,
> >
> >Is it matter if it is PII?  Only if it is ok then I will
> check with my boss,
> >may be we can donate some computer as well.
> >
> >Please let me know
> >
> >Johnny Lau
> >PC-Doctor, Inc.
> >Customer Relationship Manager
> >Tel: 775-336-4021    Fax: 775-336-4099
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Address: 9805 Double R Blvd. Suite 301
> >Reno, Nevada 89521
> >
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> >    1. NV Sate Fair (Dennis Bagley)
> >    2. Re: NV Sate Fair (John Morgan)
> >    3. Re: NV Sate Fair (Mark C. Ballew)
> >    4. Re: NV Sate Fair (Dennis Bagley)
> >    5. Re: NV Sate Fair (Dennis Bagley)
> >    6. Re: NV Sate Fair (Dennis Bagley)
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> >Message: 1
> >Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:41:41 -0800
> >From: Dennis Bagley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: RLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [RLUG] NV Sate Fair
> >
> >I met with some board members today from the Nevada
> State Fair.
> >
> >They are totally ready, able and willing to convert
> their office,
> >reporting and accounting structures
> >to a Linux/ Open Source platform.
> >
> >One of the board members is trying to secure 5 Pentium
> III's from the
> >county.
> >(Out of curiosity, what happened to the equipment from
> the City of Sparks?)
> >
> >On the basis that hardware is secured, there will be a
> need for
> >Cable & ends
> >Router-switch
> >Some kind of simple back-up on data files (prefer
> automatic)
> >(Someone to string cable  unless some of you in RAWUG
> have an
> >    alternative you prefer?)
> >
> >Full CD copy of a recent distro (perhaps NOT RedHat?)
> >
> >I am planning on demoing three different open accounting
> packages
> >    but if anyone has checked something out they like -
> please let me know.
> >
> >Remember this is a non-profit agency with tight
> resources (read: no
> >money to spare)
> >Whatever RLUG can do to make this a smooth install is a
> definite plus for us
> >     and the Fair, and it stands a good chance of
> getting some good press
> >maybe more than that.
> >
> >Dennis
> >
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 2
> >Subject: Re: [RLUG] NV Sate Fair
> >From: John Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: RLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Organization:
> >Date: 29 Dec 2003 16:54:47 -0800
> >
> >On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 16:41, Dennis Bagley wrote:
> > > I met with some board members today from the Nevada
> State Fair.
> > >
> > > They are totally ready, able and willing to convert
> their office,
> > > reporting and accounting structures
> > > to a Linux/ Open Source platform.
> > >
> > > One of the board members is trying to secure 5
> Pentium III's from the
> > > county.
> > > (Out of curiosity, what happened to the equipment
> from the City of
> >Sparks?)
> > >
> > > On the basis that hardware is secured, there will be
> a need for
> > > Cable & ends
> >
> >I have a spool of cable sitting at the house and have
> plenty of ends,
> >crimpers, testers etc if needed.
> >
> > > Router-switch
> > > Some kind of simple back-up on data files (prefer
> automatic)
> > > (Someone to string cable  unless some of you in RAWUG
> have an
> > >    alternative you prefer?)
> > >
> > > Full CD copy of a recent distro (perhaps NOT RedHat?)
> > >
> >Uhm SuSE 9.0 work?
> >
> > > I am planning on demoing three different open
> accounting packages
> > >    but if anyone has checked something out they like
> - please let me know.
> > >
> 
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