Aw go ahead and rant.  I got so tired of bad excuses and worse tech
support based in Bangladesh from SBC - just dumped them.  I've had a few
issues from HSBB but they have been responding to any calls I make and
even adjusted a billing.  Speed has been great.

I got rid of Charter years ago (They were called something else back
then.) when they couldn't keep my cable tv running consistently. The
only folks I know who seem totally happy with their internet service
fall into the aforementioned category Todd described: they only use
webmail and "surf," using Billyware.

Dennis

On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 16:26, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 03:16:44PM -0800, Ed Jaeger wrote:
> 
> > Granted, it took some poking around to find out what was up, but once
> > I discovered that they had been putting port 25 blocks in place and
> > there was a way to undo it I just did that.
> 
> I'm not debating that they could have made it more difficult than they
> did. They also deserve at least *minor* kudos for only blocking outbound
> port 25, and not making the block bidirectional (how long would it have
> taken you to realize you weren't *receiving* email?).
> 
> I can see where they might have a legitimate interest in slowing the
> spread of trojans and spam. They get a few brownie points for at least
> making the attempt in that regard; more ISPs should take an active
> interest in *constructively* protecting the unknowledgable user.
> 
> Anyway, my beef is really with Charter, not SBC. Charter has the
> mentality that "the Internet experience" consists solely of surfing the
> web (downstream only, of course), and that any other use is inherently
> outside their terms of service.
> 
> Mark's point about broken saws is quite appropos. Cars are dangerous,
> but we let people drive them because nothing would get done if people
> were only allowed to ride vendor-approved tricycles. And if you buy an
> SUV, you certainly don't expect them to deliver it to you with the
> engine "removed for your safety"...at least, not unless you just needed
> a quarter-ton paperweight.
> 
> Anyway, I only brought it up because at first glance it seemed very
> similar. But, as you correctly point out, it's not the same thing at
> all, and Charter can continue their "Reign of Error (tm)" as the
> undisputed king of clueless ISPs.
> 
> Sorry for the rant. Please go back to your regularly-scheduled surfing.
> :)


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