John Dell wrote:
Hi Bill,
Bill Roddy wrote:
Mind if I jump in again? Not trying to pick a fight either. Scientific
Linux is not a "clone" of RHLE. It is RHLE, without the logos, and with
I would not take the word *clone* in a negative way. The goal of CentOS
and ScientificLinux are both stated to be RHEL compatible. This means
binary compatibility with RHEL. So if a vendors certifies a package as
RHEL compatible, that is the one to use for CentOS, SciLinux, etc. This
is really why CentOS and SciLinux *are* desireable distributions.
the latest Mozilla family available. It is, for all practical intents
and purposes, perpetual service for any chosen release, because many of
Says here 3 years of security updates available for a given release.
https://www.scientificlinux.org/about/future
Not sure why they would do that since RHEL offers 5 years of security
updates, and they release the SRPM's for their updates, so all SciLinux
needs to do is recompile.
the world's labs who use it have experiments that are ongoing for many
years and do not want their systems touched, except for security
releases. I honestly don't know if it's "better" or the same as
CentOS, because one hears a lot of good things about that project. But
I do know that CentOS isn't better than SL, because it simply couldn't
be. There's way too much horsepower behind SL for that to be the case.
I guess it really depends on what you want from your linux distro.
For my production servers, I want stability, timely security updates,
and long life-span before major upgrades. RHEL (clones) gives me that.
For my desktop, I'd be silly to run RHEL, and I don't. I like running
BE software. So I'm running SuSE 9.3 and will soon be upgrading to SuSE
10.0.
John
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John,
Thanks for the reply. I don't take "clone" negatively at all. I think
the whole discussion can get pretty funny at times. Like you said in one
post, religion (though I don't think you meant it in that way).
And I agree one billion percent that the beauty of open source is that
one's free to use what one wants. Look, I'm disable, on a fixed income,
and my computer is home-built out of junk and may not last through this
e-mail. And the only way I can afford to put a system on it that does
all the nice things I like and gives me the feeling of security I crave
is to use open-source. I'm using Ubuntu (well, Kubuntu) to write this. I
have KANOTIX on another partition. I tried to put FreeBSD on another
partition and screwed the whole thing up yesterday, but I'll get the
hang of that marvel sooner or later.
I have no business at all talking turkey with guys like y'all, who are
working in the field, many of you getting paid to do this sort of thing
because I'm self-taught and that's a pretty bad teacher. But I've always
felt welcomed by the open-source community and that's a good feeling.
I've had some nice times with Scientific Linux and got to know the folks
there pretty well. It's actually not just one Linux, but several -- CERN
Linux, Fermi LINUX, and a couple of others -- but Fermilabs took the
bull by the horns and made a base distro that's compliant with most of
what the other labs want to add to it, like mountains of security, tons
of Kerbos farms, project-specific stuff. I know, for example, that
Cambridge University physics department, where Stephen Hawking works,
uses it. In fact, Hawking chirped into the mail list one day (and
probably got bombed out by admiring e-mailers).
But I don't use SL. You don't use SL. I feel the lure of the Linux open
road. I want to peel out in the latest KDE, drive the sporty Gnome 2.12,
watch videos, look at streaming media (even .wmp). So I distro-hop like
a gerbil on speed. I'm getting pretty old and this is about the only way
I can "cutting-edge" into my dull life.
So, yeah, I'm in it for the fun. That, and writing e-mails to five
children, 15 grandchildren, and two great-grandchildren. And
occasionally, to the Yale cheerleader living in the White House now. And
you all.
And when I had an income, I bought every one of the SuSE's as they came
out. Gonna try them again, now that I can.
Hope you're having a great weekend. We had a beautiful fall day over
here in Quincy. Life's so great. And so short.
Bill
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