and doing a CDDB look-up as well. I've been mostly using Gnome and Winders so that's probably
why I have not noticed this before.
Wow!
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 14:20 -0800, Scott Fritzinger wrote:
Dennis, That's exactly it. That the really nice thing about the move to virtual file system (VFS) in file managers like Konqueror, Nautilus, EFM, etc... They can do a LOT more than just showing you files. For the audio cds, dragging and dropping does the conversion on the fly. What is happening behind the scenes is that the filemanager reads a chunk of raw audio data, converts it to the destination format (mp3, ogg/vorbis, ogg/flac, wav, etc...) and spits out the converted chunk to wherever you drop it. So, now instead of having a specialty ripper (grip, CDex on windows, etc...), you just copy files from the virtual cd to a folder :-) This feature has been in KDE since version 2.x I THINK, but required the appropriate libraries to be installed and for the Audio CD VFS module to be loaded; sometimes it wouldn't show up. In 3.x, it is on by default and most distributions include/install the appropriate libraries by default. There are a lot of REALLY nice VFS modules as well. [shameless self promotion] The camera VFS module will let you access your digital cameras via gPhoto (my old project) and drag/drop out the files. This may not seem like much now because most cameras show up as hard drives (via USB Mass Storage), but anyone who's ever owned a non-USB Mass Storage camera who had to use a special program to grab photos can appreciate it :-) [/shameless self promotion] There are others for Samba, SSH/SFTP, FTP, WebDAV (not sure if that one is "out"), etc... -Scott Dennis Bagley wrote: > Scott as a matter of fact, yes - I playing around with KDE (again) and > Konqueror is popping up > when I load the CD. > > So you are saying: these folders and files do not really exist, the file > manager and the OS are displaying what > could be available under open source and if I do a drag & drop style > copy, I'm actually doing the ripping > and converting on the fly? > > Whoa!!! - If that's the case - it's pretty damn sophisticated! > > And I guess somewhat new??? > > > Dennis > > > > > On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:29 -0800, Scott Fritzinger wrote: > >>Dennis, >> >>I'm assuming you are accessing these through a GUI file browser >>(Konqueror perhaps?). >> >>If so, then that is one of the REALLY cool things that is built-into the >>file manager. It is a virtual filesystem that presents the audio tracks >>in several different formats for you to copy. On the CD, there is only >>the regular raw audio data. The file manager adds in the extra >>folders/files as a convenience (big one!) so that ripping is actually >>just dragging and dropping those virtual files. >> >>-Scott >> >>Dennis Bagley wrote: >>> This may sound like a newbie thing.....and maybe it is..... >>> >>> In Linux (or at least Ubuntu Breezy), I can put an audio CD in and a >>> file browser window opens showing directories >>> on the CD that I have never seen via a Windows box. >>> >>> I honestly do not remember seeing all those extra files and folders >>> before. Possible that since I >>> was not expecting them I just didn't pay attention - but I honestly do >>> not recall seeing them before. >>> >>> Those directories include all the songs from the CD in additional >>> compressed formats, including: >>> OGG, FLAC etc. And you can execute the files and they play just fine. >>> They can be copied etc. >>> >>> That says to me that most CD ripping probably isn't really necessary - >>> you can just copy these other files to your >>> hard drive. >>> >>> I'm guessing a bunch of you already knew this - if not, I'm wondering why. >>> >>> I have even found these extra folders on CDs from 10 years ago! I have >>> older CDs I intend to check as well. >>> >>> I have tried to see the extra stuff on a Windows box with -0- luck. I'm >>> wondering if that is by design or if there >>> is some kind of odd formatting. >>> >>> Not having access to an Apple box - I do not know if the files display >>> under OS X. >>> >>> >>> Comments? Insights? Boot to the Head? >>> >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> RLUG mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://lists.rlug.org/mailman/listinfo/rlug >> >>_______________________________________________ >>RLUG mailing list >>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>http://lists.rlug.org/mailman/listinfo/rlug >> _______________________________________________ RLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.rlug.org/mailman/listinfo/rlug
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