Dennis,
I'm not sure of one off the top of my head.
At the operating system level, developing low-level file systems in
windows requires obtaining a developers kit from MS that they used to
charge for (I'm not sure if they still do?) so writing a native VFS to
do it would be time consuming and complicated from some code I've seen.
As for a 3rd party file manager to do it at the application level like
Konqueror does, I don't know of one off-hand. Someone else may know.
-Scott
Dennis Bagley wrote:
Is there a 3rd party file manager for M$ that does the same?
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 14:20 -0800, Scott Fritzinger wrote:
Dennis,
That's exactly it. That the really nice thing about the move to virtual
file system (VFS) in file managers like Konqueror, Nautilus, EFM, etc...
They can do a LOT more than just showing you files.
For the audio cds, dragging and dropping does the conversion on the fly.
What is happening behind the scenes is that the filemanager reads a
chunk of raw audio data, converts it to the destination format (mp3,
ogg/vorbis, ogg/flac, wav, etc...) and spits out the converted chunk to
wherever you drop it. So, now instead of having a specialty ripper
(grip, CDex on windows, etc...), you just copy files from the virtual cd
to a folder :-)
This feature has been in KDE since version 2.x I THINK, but required the
appropriate libraries to be installed and for the Audio CD VFS module to
be loaded; sometimes it wouldn't show up. In 3.x, it is on by default
and most distributions include/install the appropriate libraries by
default.
There are a lot of REALLY nice VFS modules as well.
[shameless self promotion]
The camera VFS module will let you access your digital cameras via
gPhoto (my old project) and drag/drop out the files. This may not seem
like much now because most cameras show up as hard drives (via USB Mass
Storage), but anyone who's ever owned a non-USB Mass Storage camera who
had to use a special program to grab photos can appreciate it :-)
[/shameless self promotion]
There are others for Samba, SSH/SFTP, FTP, WebDAV (not sure if that one
is "out"), etc...
-Scott
Dennis Bagley wrote:
Scott as a matter of fact, yes - I playing around with KDE (again) and
Konqueror is popping up
when I load the CD.
So you are saying: these folders and files do not really exist, the file
manager and the OS are displaying what
could be available under open source and if I do a drag & drop style
copy, I'm actually doing the ripping
and converting on the fly?
Whoa!!! - If that's the case - it's pretty damn sophisticated!
And I guess somewhat new???
Dennis
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:29 -0800, Scott Fritzinger wrote:
Dennis,
I'm assuming you are accessing these through a GUI file browser
(Konqueror perhaps?).
If so, then that is one of the REALLY cool things that is built-into the
file manager. It is a virtual filesystem that presents the audio tracks
in several different formats for you to copy. On the CD, there is only
the regular raw audio data. The file manager adds in the extra
folders/files as a convenience (big one!) so that ripping is actually
just dragging and dropping those virtual files.
-Scott
Dennis Bagley wrote:
This may sound like a newbie thing.....and maybe it is.....
In Linux (or at least Ubuntu Breezy), I can put an audio CD in and a
file browser window opens showing directories
on the CD that I have never seen via a Windows box.
I honestly do not remember seeing all those extra files and folders
before. Possible that since I
was not expecting them I just didn't pay attention - but I honestly do
not recall seeing them before.
Those directories include all the songs from the CD in additional
compressed formats, including:
OGG, FLAC etc. And you can execute the files and they play just fine.
They can be copied etc.
That says to me that most CD ripping probably isn't really necessary -
you can just copy these other files to your
hard drive.
I'm guessing a bunch of you already knew this - if not, I'm wondering why.
I have even found these extra folders on CDs from 10 years ago! I have
older CDs I intend to check as well.
I have tried to see the extra stuff on a Windows box with -0- luck. I'm
wondering if that is by design or if there
is some kind of odd formatting.
Not having access to an Apple box - I do not know if the files display
under OS X.
Comments? Insights? Boot to the Head?
Dennis
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