I like the idea of simplifying the blog UIs and from my point of view the edit 
link is somewhat unnecessary.

However I disagree with the general idea of not considering authorization for 
the blog templates, because I regard e.g. the navigation menu as being pretty 
useful in terms of having a shortcut for the author for posting new entries and 
manage the settings. This is a usability feature which I would personally 
weight higher than speeding up the caching.

Regards
Martin


Allen Gilliland wrote:

> I know I have brought this up before and I don't remember how it was 
> received, but in any case I'm going to bring it up again.  Would anyone be 
> opposed to the idea of removing the set of edit links that we embed into 
> weblog pages?  I think the reasons to do this are many ...
>
> 1. It would *significantly* simplify the page rendering process to not have 
> to deal the issue of rendering things differently if the weblog owner is 
> logged in.  I believe there is a fair amount of logic that goes into the 
> models/macros/rendering to deal with this situation which could all be 
> removed.
>
> 2. I consider this feature minimally useful.  I don't see why a weblog author 
> would browser their site to look for things to edit rather than just logging 
> into the "editing" interface and doing their work their.
>
> 3. This feature is only ever of benefit to a single person, the weblog 
> author.  We add a fair amount of extra logic just so that these pages can be 
> rendered to benefit a single person :/
>
> 4. This would never work in a statically rendered site.
>
> As far as I am concerned this feature requires way more overhead than it's 
> worth.  If we rip it out we simplify a number of things ...
>
> 1. we can remove all elements of models and macros which perform any logic 
> based on a users login status.  this would simplify a number of models and 
> macros.
>
> 2. we can simplify our caching because the cache no longer needs to know if 
> the user is logged in or not and render/cache those pages separately.  this 
> reduces the size of the cache (possibly significantly on large sites) and 
> eliminates unnecessary redundancy.
>
> So, my opinion is pretty obvious.  I think this is a feature which can safely 
> be removed and will do some very good things to simplify a number of aspects 
> of weblog rendering.
>
> Thoughts?  Opinions?
>
> -- Allen
>
>


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