Hello everyone,
I belive that i have already asked about sourceforge on this list befour,
and found out that i could not host on em becours of the license terms with
the source,
but i tryed anyways, but just to see what would happen.

I submitted for an account, included both my license & the licenses for
diku/merc/rom.
my license was pritty small.

* Obay the Diku / Merc & Rom license.
* Keep my name & copyright in the login.
* Dont changes the help 'Smud', it will be kept as shipped.
* Have Fun.

First i got rejected, but i was counting on that, as i had an backup plan.

Told souceforge that i would like to know the exact reason why my project
(Smud)
could not be accepted.

And listed about 10 - 20 other projects on sourceforge.net that was/is
useing diku related code.
Took em quite some time to explane, and i would just love to show you why,
maybe you could
make i more readable for me heh.

This is the Thread:

>>> Mail to me <<<
> Your project registration for SourceForge has been denied.
>
> Project Full Name:  Smud
> Project Unix Name:  kawaki
>
> Reasons for negative decision:
>
> Greetings,
>
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projects.
> It appears that your project is developing software, but that you have
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> The license you have selected also does not appear to meet all of the
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>
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>>> Mail from me <<<
> Support Requests item #544793, was opened at 2002-04-16 11:08
> You can respond by visiting:
>
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=544793&group_id=
1
>
> Category: Project Registration Issue
> Group: Second Level Support
> Status: Open
> Priority: 4
> Submitted By: Michael Gerner Andreasen (kawaki)
> Assigned to: Jacob Moorman (moorman)
> Summary: Project registration rejection: kawaki*
>
> Initial Comment:
> Unix name: kawaki
> Project name: Smud
>
> Would just want to know exactly what part of the
> licenses that was the reason why Smud was rejected.
>
> I know other projects on sourceforge that includes
> parts of this software and even is a child from the
> code that we start off with, and the licenses apply to
> em allso, will show a few examples for you so you
> bettere undrestand:
>
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/swr2/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/symbiotica/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/startermud/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbzwinmud/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/dwmud/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/tzevaer/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/openmudengine/
>   (i could be wrong about this one, sorry)
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/yaemud/
>   ( this is a child from evny mud, evnys parrent was
> merc and mercs parrent was dikumud so thay have to
> apply to the license to then)
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/deadlands/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/tearsofhope/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/mudmaker/
>   (i could once again be very wrong but thay do talk
> about diku in the description)
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/symbiotica/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/havok/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/strive/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/sludge/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/rpgsys/
> * http://sourceforge.net/projects/nfsmud/
>
> I could list hundereds of em how many would you like?
> if it is anything with in the license that i showed,
> then all this projects + lotsa more are breaking the
> law, you investegate and come to your dission, but i
> would just like to have a home where i have cvs, the
> ability to let others look at what i/we have done and
> even let em join the project without haveing to
> manages the work our self, i like to play with linux
> and server setnings, but when it comes to this project
> i would rathere code on this instead of keeping track
> is system updates and lost inodes.
>
> hope you kan help, the file i included include the rom
> the merc and the diku license, the diku license applys
> to 98% of all the abov links, have a niceday >=)

>>> Mail to me <<<
> Comment By: Trae McCombs (mccombs)
> Date: 2002-04-16 11:30
>
> Message:
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>
> Greetings,
>
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>>> Mail from me <<<
> Comment By: Michael Gerner Andreasen (kawaki)
> Date: 2002-04-17 19:03
>
> Message:
> Logged In: YES
> user_id=264978
>
> Would just like to know what is beeing done on this, and
> maybe what others in the sourceforge staff has sed about this tropic.

>>> Mail to me <<<
bla bla bla, again an autoresponder.

>>> Mail from me <<<
> Comment By: Michael Gerner Andreasen (kawaki)
> Date: 2002-04-16 20:33
>
> Message:
> Logged In: YES
> user_id=264978
>
> Maybe you should make an mudforge.net where theis licenses
> terms would be accepted, but thats up to you, and what do
> you intend to do with the already accepted projects if you
> deny Smud the right to sourceforge becourse of the license
> Smud and the other projects have to apply to?
>
> And what is someone started sub projects, form a project
> that was an original dikumud but got accepted here as an
> GPL or other osd licenses and continuede the development? i
> would like to see a responce to this Asap.

>>> Mail to me <<<
> Comment By: Jacob Moorman (moorman)
> Date: 2002-04-19 08:10
>
> Message:
> Logged In: YES
> user_id=152443
>
> Greetings,
>
> We recognize that SourceForge.net has provided hosting
> for a number of similar diku-derivative projects in the
> past.  This hosting was approved prior to the re-evaluation
> of the project approval process.  Each new project submitted
> for hosting on SourceForge.net is considered on its own
> merits; prior hosting approval of similar projects is not
> considered when reviewing project registrations.  At this
> time, SourceForge.net is only providing new hosting to
> software development projects which use OSI-approved
> licenses, and those projects which have been reviewed as
> result of one of the two  exceptions (community projects,
> and those which use licenses in compliance with the Open
> Source Definition). The Diku MUD license is not compliant
> with the requirements to be considered Open Source software;
> SourceForge.net will not provide hosting for software under
> this license.
>
> Please let me know if you should have further questions or
> concerns regarding this matter.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jacob Moorman
> Quality of Service Manager, SourceForge.net

>>> Next mail from me <<< (proberly)
This Fu*king Suc*s.

Plz, dont flame!!! plz. as i have been so quite this past few mounths,
and dont say that i cant spell right, as i already know this.

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