A tool that fbi allso uses is msmtp, it seems to be fetchmail vice versa. It produces the same error messages, for which i would think it's a better debugging target that the mozilla gui monster. Msmtp could allso be a solution to glue upstream tls in a smart easy way to citadel...
<snipp>
account nt
host tucholsky.ty.newthinking.de
port 587
user fbi
auth plain
tls on
tls_starttls on
tls_nocertcheck
</snipp>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ msmtp -a nt -S
msmtp: command STARTTLS failed
msmtp: server message: 200 2.0.0 Begin TLS negotiation now
