To all: 

Tom is absolutely correct!   The Web publishing has knocked the sox off of
our business sponsors and tech guys alike, but it is a pig.  Yes it does
leak.

Some things I have found that may be useful to you.

                - If you are modeling J2EE systems, skip the Java, javax,
etc. packages unless you absolutely have to have these packages on the Web.
                - Be selective in the packages you publish, skip components
that are redundant or not the focus of attention. 
                - Rational's wizard does not allow for hierarchical
selection / deselecting of packages.  You must click each one to deselect
it.  A workaround is to NOT load the packages you will not be publishing.
The wizard will automatically deselect unloaded packages for publishing.
Caution: All unloaded classes will have the "Circled M with a slash through
it" on associations to those classes.
                - Create the Web locally.  Publishing to a network drive
slows the process down (if that's possible!) by about 20%.

Richard Fike
Development Architect
John Hancock Financial Services
Development Process and Tools Group, C-4 
Voice: 617-572-9033
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Silveria, Tom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Friday, November 17, 2000 6:08 AM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Cc:     Moura, Lou; Smith, Chris F
        Subject:        RE: (ROSE) Out of Memory


        I successfully published our model on a fast HP(300Mhz?) with more
        memory(512M?).  It seems like Rose Web can turn 13M of mdl and cat
files
        into 148M of html files using/leaking 236M of RAM in two hours.
This cannot
        be an efficient process, but the results are spectacular!

        Thomas Silveria
        Senior Software Engineer

        Lockheed Martin Tactical Systems
        Naval Electronics & Surveillance Systems
        25 Enterprise Center, Middletown RI 02842
        Telephone 401-848-8165 Facsimile 401-849-3318



                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Silveria, Tom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:51 AM
                To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Cc:     Moura, Lou
                Subject:        RE: (ROSE) Out of Memory


                Thanks Louis and James;

                My model (mdl and cat files) is 13M on disk.  Using  the top
command
        on Rose
                with no model loaded shows (SIZE/RES)  19M/10M; with my
model loaded
        shows
                59M/50M; after successful publishing of half the model
122M/113M;
        after
                failing to publish the whole model and issuing Out of Memory
Error
                140M/116M.

                I can only successfully publish both halves of the model
separately
        by
                exiting rose and reloading the model.  This leads me to
believe that
        there
                is a memory leak somewhere.

                My SA claims that one process is only allowed 67M, but he is
out
        today.
                Thanks for all your help.

                Thomas Silveria
                Senior Software Engineer

                Lockheed Martin Tactical Systems
                Naval Electronics & Surveillance Systems
                25 Enterprise Center, Middletown RI 02842
                Telephone 401-848-8165 Facsimile 401-849-3318



                        -----Original Message-----
                        From:   James Maynard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                        Sent:   Wednesday, November 15, 2000 7:14 PM
                        To:     Louis F. Springer
                        Cc:     Silveria, Tom; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Subject:        RE: (ROSE) Out of Memory


                        We had a similar problem simply loading a model when
it got
        over
                640M. This
                        was no longer evident in 2000e but our model used
less
        memory in
                2000e and
                        we were not hitting the limit. The problem seemed to
be in
        the
                SmartHeap
                        library, which is a third party memory management
subsystem
        of rose.
                When
                        we upgraded to Rose 2000e we also installed the
circular
                dependencies
                        patch.  As I have stated our model does not
,however, get to
        the
                magic 640M
                        in 2000e so I am not sure if the problem has been
fixed. I
        would
                also check
                        your model for hanging relationships. These are not
visible
        in the
                browser
                        and can only be found through the API. I would also
look for
                circular
                        dependencies, again this is best done through the
API.
                        James Maynard




                        "Louis F. Springer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@rational.com
on
        16/11/2000
                07:20:05

                        Please respond to "Louis F. Springer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

                        Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


                        To:   "Silveria, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                        cc:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

                        Subject:  RE: (ROSE) Out of Memory



                        Is this a server or a workstation? Do you have an SA
there?
        I'm not
                an
                        expert on HP-UX or an SA, but you might try
increasing the
        virtual
                        memory. This is done on Linux by increasing the swap
space,
        I
                believe.
                        I'm sure HP-UX has a similar mechanism. You might
also be
        able to
                tell
                        how much virtual memory you have available at the
time you
        are
                getting
                        the "out of memory" error with the "top" command or
similar.

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Silveria, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                        Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:25 PM
                        To: Jordan Janis
                        Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        Subject: RE: (ROSE) Out of Memory



                        I press the Tools -> Web Publisher -> Publish
menu/dialog
                selections.

                        I am using Rose 2000e on HPUX 10.2.

                        Thomas Silveria
                        Senior Software Engineer

                        Lockheed Martin Tactical Systems
                        Naval Electronics & Surveillance Systems
                        25 Enterprise Center, Middletown RI 02842
                        Telephone 401-848-8165 Facsimile 401-849-3318



                             -----Original Message-----
                             From:     Jordan Janis
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                             Sent:     Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:02 PM
                             To:  'Silveria, Tom'
                             Subject:  RE: (ROSE) Out of Memory

                             What do you mean by "publish"?

                             Jordan R. Janis
                             Director of Product Development
                             Sorceron, Inc.
                             T: 212-620-0021
                             F: 212-620-7986
                             E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                             URL: www.sorceron.com


                        
                
        
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                             -----Original Message-----
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                             [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
        Silveria,
                Tom
                             Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:24 PM
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                             Subject: (ROSE) Out of Memory



                             Hello Again;
                             While attempting to publish my model, I get an
error
        dialog box
                        titled
                             "librwebutil.sl" indicating "Out of Memory".

                             Is there any way to publish a really big model?
                             Thank you, All:

                             Thomas Silveria
                             Senior Software Engineer

                             Lockheed Martin Tactical Systems
                             Naval Electronics & Surveillance Systems
                             25 Enterprise Center, Middletown RI 02842
                             Telephone 401-848-8165 Facsimile 401-849-3318



                        
                
        
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