On Saturday 12 Nov 2005 02:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Silvan wrote:
> > On Friday 11 November 2005 06:53 pm, Guillaume Laurent wrote:
> >> May I strongly suggest that we make a relase, even a
> >> beta/development/rc/whatever, if only to get actual user feedback
> >> about the new stuff ? One of the reason it's taking so long is
> >> because I think just about Chris and Silvan are actually using RG,
> >> and even then not much, so bug reports are a trickle.

That's completely the opposite of how I'd have characterised the 
situation.  We've been finding bugs faster than we can fix them.  
Surely the only reason we haven't done a release during the last couple 
of weeks is that we've had too many known outstanding bugs?

Once that last bit of upheaval in the segment canvas has settled down -- 
and once I've done some regression tests on play/record behaviour and 
fixed any stupid regressions -- we should be ready.

> > Let's try an RC process, although we have never had much success
> > with this approach in the past.

I think you _have_ to have an RC process, but I don't see any point in 
starting it while we're still fixing the blocking bugs we know are 
there.

> Nothing can help grow a testing community quite like providing
> snapshot binaries.

We've never found the resources to provide _release_ binaries -- how are 
we ever going to provide snapshot ones?  Admittedly the effort is 
probably only about the same, but even so.

I do agree that nightly builds are attractive for testers though.

> Inkscape has been using Autopackage <http://autopackage.org/>

And how do they find it?  In particular, do they get a lot of reports of 
problems with the packages themselves that have to be resolved?

I'd try out their package, except that Autopackage packages always seem 
to bugger up my Debian menus and I've never yet seen one actually work, 
so I'm rather reluctant, but perhaps I've been unlucky.  The last thing 
I want to embark on is the work of producing packages using a new 
format none of us is familiar with that none of us would normally use 
(and therefore feel comfortable testing) and then find they only work 
for one user in five anyway.  And Rosegarden's about as tough as it 
gets to package.  Although if someone did the work, we could certainly 
have a look.

Sorry about the almost wholly negative post -- I'm in a bit of a glum 
mood today for some reason.


Chris


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