On 1/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's for selfish reasons :)
Agreed.
Don't understand this...
I want to code it because its a feature I specifically wish to have. I have no intention of eliminating the line-segment clicking type interface but instead want to give users a more versatile framework for describing relationships between parameters. Picture your control segment editor. The user highlights a measure interval with the mouse. A box on the bottom right updates to show the initial parameter values of that measure interval. There is a text window in the box to write in equations in that interval. User fills in a couple lines and presses enter. The curves appear in the editor. User presses play and listens. Etc.
I don't know what jMax is but it sounds like I should look into it.
Hmm I am a musician and programmer. I don't think programming is necessary at all to use this interface. However, it does require a simple math background- but don't sell composers short. They are bright people and many could harness this feature and create interesting effects otherwise unheard in the realm of midi music. And if they don't use it, then it doesn't get in their way. Thanks for the feedback.
Carmelo
Carmelo,
Great if you can join the development team. We users can only thank you for
wanting to devote your time to Rosegarden.
It's for selfish reasons :)
About your feature...
I'd very much like to have lines and control points to implement control
automation, much like it is done in ardour. Single control events like they are
now (at least in my version) simply doesn't do it when you want some continuous
control variation (like pitch-bend or modulation).
Agreed.
First thing : we need two models. I don't want to have to specify lines and
control points just to disable the sustain because I'm clumsy with my feet and
can't get it right when recording. I think the best would be to have the
ability to say "Hey, make this control-event ruler line-and-curve-based" and
once a ruler is line-and-curve-based, you can add lines and control points.
Don't understand this...
Second thing : not to be offensive, but... equation editor??? Hu? We're talking
about music and musicians here.
If you ask me, the way you want to do it is a major "no-no". It would definitely
hurt Rosegarden if people thought that it was only for nobels.
That's simple, visual and intuitive. If you give enough flexibility as to where
the MIDI bytes are sent, then you can always use PD or jMax to compute more
complicated stuff, like proportional-but-not-quite-equal or even
Poisson-randomized control values and such.
I want to code it because its a feature I specifically wish to have. I have no intention of eliminating the line-segment clicking type interface but instead want to give users a more versatile framework for describing relationships between parameters. Picture your control segment editor. The user highlights a measure interval with the mouse. A box on the bottom right updates to show the initial parameter values of that measure interval. There is a text window in the box to write in equations in that interval. User fills in a couple lines and presses enter. The curves appear in the editor. User presses play and listens. Etc.
Don't loose most users because you want to implement a feature that only very
few users would want. If they can manage your equations, then they can manage
jMax & Co.
I don't know what jMax is but it sounds like I should look into it.
Sorry to sound a bit harsh, but I always feel a bit funny when I hear
programmers think that programmers are their only audience. Musicians are not
programmers.
Hmm I am a musician and programmer. I don't think programming is necessary at all to use this interface. However, it does require a simple math background- but don't sell composers short. They are bright people and many could harness this feature and create interesting effects otherwise unheard in the realm of midi music. And if they don't use it, then it doesn't get in their way. Thanks for the feedback.
Carmelo
