On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:01:33 -0700, Martin Shepherd wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
>> On Wednesday 13 September 2006 10:50 pm, Shelagh Manton wrote:
>>
>>> Yes indeedy! Unless I'm too impatient? How long should I have waited: I
>>> waited about 5 minutes.
>>
>> No, that's more than adequate.

Just to let you know that I will try your valuable suggestions: but
tomorrow. I'm reaching the time of day when tea looms on the horizon, and
that my responsibility.

Shelagh

> Indeed. A couple of suggestions to try:
> 
> 1. Have you seen whether it is possible to switch to a different
>     virtual console when it locks up?
> 
>     To try this, press Alt-Ctrl-F2, and see if you get presented with a
>     login prompt. If you are, then this means that the X-server has
>     hung, not the kernel. This usually means that a process has
>     performed an exclusive grab on the X server and then failed to
>     release it.
> 
>     If this reveals a login prompt, then you should be able to recover
>     your system, by first killing rosegarden and rosegarden-sequencer,
>     by typing:
> 
>       pkill rosegarden
> 
>     or
> 
>       pkill -KILL rosegarden
> 
>     if the former doesn't work, and/or by killing the X server, and then
>     by typing Alt-Ctrl-F7 to return to the graphical console. If this
>     turns out to work, then other useful things to do would be to
>     reproduce the problem, and then from the other virtual console,
>     attach to first rosegarden and then rosegarden-sequencer with the
>     debugger, to see which functions they are executing, and then with
>     strace, to see what system calls they are making.
> 
>     For example, first type:
> 
>       pgrep rosegarden
> 
>     to see what the process IDs are of rosegarden and
>     rosegarden-sequencer. If, for example, this revealed that the
>     process ID of rosegarden was 1234, then to attach the debugger to
>     the running rosegarden process, you would type:
> 
>       gdb rosegarden 1234
> 
>     Once gdb is running, type:
> 
>       where
> 
>     and this should list the stack of functions that are being called
>     (unless debugging symbols have all been stripped).
> 
>     Similarly, to see what system calls rosegarden is making, you could
>     type:
> 
>       strace -p 1234
> 
>     If rosegarden really is stuck in a system call, then this won't
>     display anything. If rosegarden is in a loop, however, then there
>     should be a steady stream of messages, which might be instructive.
> 
>     Do the same with rosegarden-sequencer.
> 
> 2. Alternatively, if the kernel really is hanging and you thus can't
>     get a virtual console, then see if you can start rosegarden from a
>     terminal that will remain visible when rosegarden appears, and start
>     rosegarden from it, using strace, so that you can see the final
>     system calls that rosegarden makes before everything locks up. You
>     can do this by typing:
> 
>      strace -f rosegarden
> 
>     If it proves to be impossible to have the terminal window unobscured
>     by rosegarden, when the system locks up, then try sending the output
>     of strace to a file, so that you can look at this after you reboot.
>     This may or may not work, depending on whether the kernel manages to
>     write the output of strace to the file, before it locks up. But it's
>     worth a try. You would do this by typing:
> 
>      strace -f -o /tmp/rosegarden.trace rosegarden
> 
> Martin
> 
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