Hello Michael,

> > However, allowing clean editing of these
> transpositions is something to be
> > considered.  Should the user be able to update
> these through the Special
> > Parameter areas that allow them to edit other segment
> properties, or
> > should they double-click on the segments to open a
> special dialog to allow
> > the transposition to take
> place.   Hmm....  Some things to think
> about
> > here.
> 
> Most reasonable thing to me seems to be when you take a
> symlink copy of a 
> segment, the copy adopts the track parameters on the
> destination track that 
> are in effect at the time of creation.  These track
> parameters are segment 
> parameters for segments that don't yet exist, and creating
> a linked segment 
> here on this track is essentially the same sort of action
> as creating a new 
> segment from scratch, so having this behave the same way in
> both cases would 
> be intuitive, and it would be very practical from a code
> standpoint.

Agreed.

> 
> All the track parameters are segment parameters too, but
> many of them are not 
> editable as such.  The lowest and highest playable
> notes for given instrument 
> can only be edited before segments exist, and never
> afterwards.  This has 
> never raised any eyebrows.

Never really used the feature.

> 
> Taking track parameters would account for that one too,
> actually.  Say you 
> have a master segment where the highest playable note is
> two Cs above the 
> staff, and you link it for an instrument where the highest
> playable note is an 
> octave and a third lower than that.  Take the
> highest/lowest playable notes 
> from track parameters in effect on that track, and when you
> open this segment 
> in notation, it will flag the fact that your part sounding
> as written does not 
> work on the target instrument without modification. 
> (In which case the user 
> would have to make the linked copy into a permanent real
> copy (cf. the double-
> click to turn repeat segments into real segments procedure)
> and then doctor up 
> the part to bring it into the usable range of the target
> instrument).
> 
> > I see the potential here for more than the initial
> request, and I think the
> > avenue of altering the pitch is worth exploring, 
> I'm just having a bit of
> > trouble imagining a clean interface for this.
> 
> To underline what I'm getting at, this whole line of
> thought here doesn't 
> involve *any* new interface.
> 
> We could probably get into some questions like whether to
> play the part at the 
> original pitch or transpose it suitably relative to track
> parameters, but this 
> could probably just be an options dialog that appears when
> creating the link.  
> You link from a flute segment to a bassoon, it detects the
> clef difference and 
> asks whether to "maintain current pitch" or "transpose into
> suitable register" 
> or what have you.  It could be pretty nearly the same
> code that already exists 
> for doing this job when you perform a clef change, with the
> same options.  We 
> could probably recycle 80% of that dialog, actually.
> -- 

I can see the potential of asking for this kind of conversion, but I thought 
you wanted a to control this pitch transposition on a per sym-link segment 
basis.

...
Example:

Say I create a source sym-link.  1 measure of 4/4
it has four quarter notes C E G C (C major arpeggio).

Now lets say I wanted to uses this a as the basis of a 12 measure blues 
progression.

I I I I IV IV I I V IV I IV
C C C C F  F  C C G F  C F 

I would convert the segment into a symlink source segment then paste it 11 
times (for a total of 12 measures).

Next I double-click on measure 5 of the progression and tell it to transpose 
that segment +5 semi-tones (an F major chord)

Do the same for measure 6, 10, 11 of the progression.

Now double click on measure 10 of the progression and tell it to transpose +7 
semi-tones (an G major chord).

...

That example was the kind of thing I initially thought you were talking about.  
That way if I decide to change the source sym-link segment to C Eb G C.  I get 
C minor, F minor, G minor chords for the transposed sym-links.

But it sounds like you are more concerned about honoring the expected range for 
the instrument and the clef.  Those are honorable things to consider, but I 
thought you wanted finer granularity than that.

Maybe I read too much into an earlier post.

Sincerely,
Julie S.



      

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