Hi Yves, hi others ,
-about vu-meter: I got this screenshot with ubuntu 14.04 now I am using 16.04, 
so maybe this has something to do with "vu-meter?".

-Thanks for your trouble shoot. 
After fixing the "midi instrument index shift", it came out, that that was the 
only hindrance of it all. And now I can hear all instruments (!!!) , seemingly 
at least. Yes, besides one: the contrabass, even if I put it to program 44 
contrabass. I put it to 45 tremolo strings, then it sounded at least.

  -So how about it, should not one _bug report/fix then the original files, if 
they are against standard? They are, are not they? Here  ist the source 
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/117/117-h/117-h.htm and I do not know how common 
is this "bug", is it? And, yes I am total thus limited newbie both for music 
and music software.

  -Regarding a rg-tutorial: This turns out to be a tutorial not to "import 
midis with more then 16 instruments/programs and about the usage of banks", but 
one about importing "broken, instrument index shifted midi files", maybe this 
could be of good use, if that is a common, a faq issue. But for a real "more 
than 16 instrument tutorial use case", one needed such a midi file, does not 

- Regarding a scripting interface: That should be topic of another thread. But 
I wish it really bad. How do they call it? "python bindings" from cpp, no?: ya 
esta. Is there an opinion about it among yous, if this is wished or worth the 
effort, I would like know anyway.

-Did not follow step4; but downloaded your rg file, which anyway functioned 
without further configuring. I think I needed the midi file to set it up, right?

All the best.

>>  - is there a way you can prove all 24 instruments do noise all together, and
you gave a method, thanks.

25.08.2016, 21:28, "Yves Guillemot" <yc.guille...@wanadoo.fr>:
> Le lundi 22 août 2016, 14:42:05 Mario Gummies a écrit :
>>  - is there a way you can prove all 24 instruments do noise all together, and
>>  not that it seems only like that? Could you take my example midi file of
>>  the initial post, so I could verify and learn from it?
> I downloaded the midi file and discovered that only 11 voices are needed.
> So it almost works out of the box with any MIDI synthetizer.
> I'll try to explain it below.
>>  - is there a way to
>>  document the doings of the configurations: command line scripting would be
>>  ideal for communication imho, because of its secondary use of being able to
>>  be read by third communicated?
> Unfortunately there is currently no scripting language embedded in RG.
>>  - so given us poor set out to a overall
>>  great ui world: could you sketch the dialog lead, by screen shots or a
>>  pointer to a tutorial?
> You can find some documentation in RG Wiki, but it's frequently outdated or
> incomplete.
> http://rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/doc:manual-en#devices_instruments_and_connections
> Step 1 - How to set up (I presume timidity is already working):
> - Start RG, then load the midi file:
>    File -> Import -> Import MIDI File...
> - Open the MIDI devices manager dialog:
>    Studio -> Manage MIDI Devices
> - Connect the General Midi Device to a Timidity input:
>    1 - Click on "General Midi Device" in the upper left box to select it
> (well, it should already be selected as it should be the only one device in
> this window).
>    2 - Click on a Timidity input in the upper right box.
> You should see something like that:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5R8K4qNasR0X3YwMXBvR0JrR0k/view?usp=sharing
> The "General MIDI Device" device is now connected to a timidity port.
> - Close the Midi Devices manager dialog.
> - The setup is finish and you can press the play button to hear the midi file.
> Step 2 - How the MIDI instruments (or "programs") are mapped to the
> tracks:
> Here is a snapshot of the main window:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5R8K4qNasR0OTU3S0wzNngyZVk/view?usp=sharing
> and a diagram showing the relations between devices, instruments, banks and
> programs:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5R8K4qNasR0RlVHa0F4bFBOZ00/view?usp=sharing
> To click on the name in front of a track in the main window selects this
> track.
> Once the track is selected, we can see the associated Midi device (here
> "General MIDI Device") in the Track Parameters box.
> The instrument name and its number are visible under the Midi device name.
> The instruments in the same MIDI device can't be more than 16.
> This instrument is an element in the list of the instruments used in the
> composition.
> The bank and program in the Instrument Parameters box show what sound this
> logical instrument gives. In the main window snapshot, the track #6 is using
> the program "Piccolo" which has number 73 in the "General MIDI" bank.
> Successively looking all the tracks, we see that:
>    - Track 1 is not used
>    - Tracks 2 and 3 have the same instruments (75. Recorder)
>    - Tracks 4 and 5 have the same instrument (70. English Horn)
>    - Tracks 6 and 7 have the same instrument (73. Piccolo)
> etc...
> Eventually, instruments beeing shared between tracks, there are 19 tracks, but
> only 11 instruments used.
> As 11 < 16, only one MIDI device is needed (and using more than one Timidity
> port is unnecessary here).
> Here there is something weird: Why is GM Recorder used in place of flute ?
> Why English Horn in place of oboe ? Why Piccolo in place of clarinet ? etc...
> This looks like a bug somewhere:
>    Recorder is #75 in GM and Flute is #74
>    English Horn is #70 in GM and Oboe is #69
>    Piccolo is #73 in GM and Clarinet is #72
>    etc... : The N+1 GM instrument is always used in place of the N.
> To fix this, you have to select successively each track, then, in the
> Instrument parameter box, to use the Program dropdown to select the correct
> instrument.
> Step 3 - Why, in your screenshot, is there sometimes no vu-meter visible on
> some tracks at a place where this track is making sound ?
> Some similar thing is easy to notice looking tracks 10 and 11 (the horns)
> while playing bars 84 to 91.
> I didn't look at the code and I don't have a certitude, but I presume that
> there is a level treshold under which the track number is displayed rather
> than the vu-meter.
> So when a track is playing with a very low level no vu-meter is
> displayed.
> An easy way to know if a track is making sound is to mute all the other tracks
> (clicking on the blue "LED button" near each track number).
> The last RG release provides a solo button (a third "LED" in front of each
> track) which make this even simpler.
>  Step 4 - Just for the completeness, here is the example I create to have 24
> different instruments with Timidity. It works, but is not necessary for the
> Beethoven example.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5R8K4qNasR0dGZhdkRXZGRuTEk/view?usp=sharing
> To set it up:
> - Open the MIDI devices manager dialog:
>    Studio -> Manage MIDI Devices
> - Create a second MIDI device (with the button "Create")
> - Connect the first device to a Timidity port
> - Connect the second device to another Timidity port
> - Open the Banks manager (with the button "Banks...")
> - Select the second device and add a bank (button "Add Bank")
> - Then press the button "Import..." and select the "GM.rgd" file, press "Open"
> and "OK".
> - Come back to the main window and, for each track:
>    - Pick a midi device in the Track Parameters Box
>    - Pick a bank and a program in the Instrument Parameters Box
> Hope this helps.
> Yves
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