Hello Dino

Just a remark that in the mapping system discussions in the lisp list
the strong sentiment is that EIDs must be allocated and administered as

That is not my sentiment. ;-)

A site may have to request more EID-prefix space later after it perhaps uses all its addresses. So the entire set of EID-prefixes may not be in a power-of-2 block. But that doesn't mean the ALT cannot scale. The ETRs just register each EID-prefix to the map-servers that are injecting covering routes into the ALT.

EID blocks to guarantee any efficiency and scalability. If the
identities are coming from blocks that are allocated to given
enterprises, then what happens when one of devices or a small remote
site joins to an other enterprise in an different EID block? Renumbering
of EIDs maybe? How portable are the EIDs at the end of the day depends

No, no renumbering required. Plus we want people to use their existing PI or PA prefixes as EID-prefixes when they convert to LISP.

For IPv6, the situation will be much better. Because large enough blocks can be allocated so there most likely will be a single EID- prefix.

on the mapping system structure and scalability. I would say that EIDs
are independent from locators for sure, but not from their allocation
scheme that ties them to topology.

EIDs are not tied to topology. That is the whole point. They are assigned to devices and stay fixed. This way, they can move if mobile or they can stay the same when sitting at a stationary site that changes service providers.

An EID is a network layer name that doesn't ever change. The name to EID mapping in DNS never needs to change. The moving lever is the mapping of EID to RLOC-set via the LISP mapping database.

Dino


- Hannu

-----Original Message-----
From: rrg-boun...@irtf.org [mailto:rrg-boun...@irtf.org] On
Behalf Of ext Dino Farinacci
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 07:46
To: Robin Whittle
Cc: RRG; Noel Chiappa
Subject: Re: [rrg] LISP does not implement Locator / Identity
Separation

             An EID address is not an Identifier and an RLOC

It is an identifier. It is used by the TCP and UDP socket
layer. Just because an EID is also a scoped locator inside of
a site, does not preclude it from being an identifier.

               address is not a Locator.  Both kinds of address
               are like any IP address - they play the roles of
               both Identifier and Locator.  ITRs use a different
               algorithm for EID destination addresses.  All
               other routers and all hosts make no distinction
               between EID and RLOC addresses.

LISP does separate ID and locator because you can keep an EID
fixed with a system, maintaining session continuity, while
changing the locator associated with the EID.

Dino

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