On 12/18/2024 7:44 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 19-Dec-24 16:06, Stephen Farrell wrote:
Hiya,
On 19/12/2024 02:24, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
I also don't think that the current errata system really creates a
big workload. We have a big backlog, but that seems to be due to
low prioritization (and I think that's a collective error).
I think that's an erroneous diagnosis of the problem. The current
system is so bad, for all concerned, it causes most people to
de-prioritise errata processing would be my take. We should chuck
it out and replace it entirely.
I'm not disputing that we need a better system. You may be right
that we (all of us) have not prioritized errata handling precisely
because of the inconvenience of the system, hence the backlog.
We first have to decide whether we want to prioritize submission of bugs
or processing of bugs.
I am looking at recent reports that open source maintainers are getting
overwhelmed by AI automated bug generators -- low value bugs that look
syntactically correct but turn out to be nonsense. I am concerned that
any bug reporting system that provides recognition for the submitter of
the bug is susceptible to this kind of attack.
Entering an errata adds instant load to a working group. This cannot be
a completely free wheeling process, because the working group resource
are limited. Combine that with EKR observation that the result of the
process has low visibility given the immutability of the documents, and
we can easily understand why working groups will mostly ignore them.
The main value of the errata ought to be, inform the next version of the
document. At twork on that new version starts, they should be processed
like any contribution to a working group. Before that, it is probably
sufficient to log them in some kind of issue tracker. And maybe consider
the size of the list as a motivation for the WG to start the "bis"
version of the document. Maybe also consider a light weight process to
just discard errata that are clearly erroneous.
-- Christian Huitema
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