On 27 May 2026, at 2:53, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> On 27/05/2026 02:43, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> While I feel sure we need to say "no plagiarism",
>
> Is that actually well-defined for I-Ds? We have a tradition
> that someone can pick up the ball and run with it, whenever
> something needs revising. That mostly involves earlier text
> authors being involved but not always. Similarly, we often
> copy chunks of text from document A to document B without
> asking the authors of A. Those are almost never problematic
> with our boilerplate (and are almost always done well), but
> I dunno if there's a definition of plagiarism that fits what
> we want.

Every definition of plagiarism I can find talks about misrepresenting another 
person’s work as your own. I don’t see plagiarism concerns in our processes, 
provided appropriate credit is given.

The way we phrased this for the IRTF, in RFC 9775, was:

> Plagiarism, misrepresentation of authorship, and content
> falsification constitute dishonesty and fraud.  Such actions
> are prohibited and the IRTF may take action against authors
> who commit them, including…

and

> The IRTF publishes informational and experimental documents
> in the RFC series.  The nature of these documents, and their
> preceding Internet-Drafts, is that they often extend or
> elaborate upon previously published research results, to
> support ongoing development and experimentation by the IRTF
> community.  These documents are encouraged as an important
> part of the process of disseminating research ideas and
> ensuring that they work in the Internet at large. Authors
> must ensure that prior work, including their own prior work,
> is appropriately cited and acknowledged, and that new documents
> respect the copyright of prior work and are written with the
> permission of any coauthors.
>
> IRTF documents may represent the views of their authors or
> they may be consensus documents representing the views of a
> research group. It is a misrepresentation for authors to
> falsely claim that a document represents the consensus view
> of a research group. Similarly, the editors of a research
> group consensus document must not misrepresent their role
> as that of authors.

This text won’t directly work for the IETF, but something similar could be 
suitable.

Colin

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