On 04-Jun-26 11:53, Eric Rescorla wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 3:50 PM Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> "Copyright Eligibility: In many jurisdictions, including the United
States, works that are entirely generated by AI lack human authorship and cannot be
copyrighted. Authors must disclose AI text to ensure that only the human-generated
portions are protected.
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>
> Do you have an actual cite that shows this to be the case? I would
observe that this problem already exists pre-AI because we might be incorporating
public domain material, but we don't designate that specially. Nor would the kind
of disclosure you propose be helpful unless we were to explicitly designate which
portions were unprotected.
>
>
> Avoiding Fraud: Failing to declare AI usage on copyright
applications can invalidate your registration and may be deemed fraud upon
regulatory bodies like the Copyright Office.
>
>
> This seems irrelevant unless all of the content of the document is
machine generated, which seems highly unlikely. For that matter, do we even
register our copyrights?
>
>
> Preventing "Hallucinations": AI models can hallucinate false facts,
references, and data. Disclosure allows readers and reviewers to critically evaluate claims
and ensures the author takes full accountability for verifying the material.
>
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> This is already covered under authors being responsible for the contents.
>
>
> Reader Preferences: Readers expect transparency regarding AI involvement
to assess the value and credibility of what they are consuming."
>
>
> This is just assuming the premise.
Well, you have to argue those points with Google AI, not me.
I don't intend to use any of that text in the draft.
This is non-responsive.
To recap, I argued that no such disclosure was necessary and asked you to
provide a justification for why one was. You provided this AI-generated text,
which I took to be your justification. If you're not prepared to defend it, then
we're back to the previous situation in which you're just asserting without
justification that a disclosure is necessary.
What I currently have in the edit buffer is:
* If, however, a substantial part of the document was created by AI this must
be disclosed, typically in the Acknowledgements section. This requirement is to
avoid any confusion about the authorship of the document and to ensure that its
readers are not misled.
I definitely don't think the RSWG should get into a discussion of copyright,
whether AI generated text is immoral, etc. It's just about truth in
advertising. If I'm using anything that Google AI suggested, it's the last
point: reader preferences.
Brian
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