Used the wrong words ;) Of course, this should read:

Sure, but let me phrase it that way: My interest is finding bugs, support
questions often lead to that. If there is no bug involved, my personal
interest in support is *extremely limited*. Still, there is the rest of
the community, and they often provide advice. So Adiscon created the
commercial support for corporations that want to have a solution and save
time while doing so.

And: why is my interest limited? Support to get someone else going
contributes almost nothing back to the project...

Rainer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:rsyslog-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:52 PM
> To: rsyslog-users
> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] server frozen when remote logging
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:rsyslog-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mikel Jimenez
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:48 PM
> > To: rsyslog-users
> > Subject: Re: [rsyslog] server frozen when remote logging
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I will delete this line of the config.
> > I will make probes.
> > About the comercial support, I think that this issue is  "basic" for
> > the
> > proper working of a production and seriour enviroment of rsyslog.
> 
> Sure, but let me phrase it that way: My interest is finding bugs,
> support
> questions often lead to that. If there is no bug involved, my personal
> interest in bug reports is *extremely limited*. Still, there is the
> rest of
> the community, and they often provide advice. So Adiscon created the
> commercial support for corporations that want to have a solution and
> save
> time while doing so.
> 
> >
> > In the future, if we want an especialezed support we call you for
> > support, sure!! :)
> >
> >
> > So any solution for this?
> > UDP?
> 
> Anyhow, does that mean your config is now error-free and the problem
> still
> persists?
> 
> Rainer
> >
> > Rainer Gerhards wrote:
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:rsyslog-
> > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mikel Jimenez
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:14 PM
> > >> To: rsyslog-users
> > >> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] server frozen when remote logging
> > >>
> > >> But rsyslog starts...
> > >>
> > >> If I use UDP instead TCP?
> > >>
> > >
> > > sure, because the messages are thrown away, at least I think. The
> > point is:
> > > it doesn't make sense to hunt for a problem as long as we know that
> > the
> > > config is incorrect. Better get the config clean first, then see if
> > the
> > > problem even persists and then look at it.
> > >
> > > Bluntly and not meant to be embarrassing: I've set aside some time
> to
> > do this
> > > kind of support, but if you need more "full service" help, it would
> > probably
> > > be a good idea to purchase one of the support packages. They exists
> > so that
> > > we can look at issues in depth. This is often an excellent values,
> as
> > it may
> > > safe you hours and hours of work. And, really, I can't develop all
> > this and
> > > provide this kind of full-service support ;)
> > >
> > > Rainer
> > >
> > >
> > >> Rainer Gerhards wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Ok, there are errors in the config files. I've stopped looking at
> > >>>
> > >> them when I
> > >>
> > >>> saw
> > >>>
> > >>> EST=...
> > >>>
> > >>> ... @@$EST
> > >>>
> > >>> This does not work in rsyslog (yet). Please make sure that your
> > >>>
> > >> configs are
> > >>
> > >>> OK. With the versions you have, you either need to start rsyslogd
> > >>> interactively in debug mode OR simply look at the syslogd logs
> > (those
> > >>>
> > >> with
> > >>
> > >>> syslog facility).
> > >>>
> > >>> Rainer
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:rsyslog-
> > >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mikel Jimenez
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:56 AM
> > >>>> To: rsyslog-users
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] server frozen when remote logging
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ok Rainer
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In the clients:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> OS= opensuse 10.0
> > >>>> rsyslog version: 3.19.7
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In the server
> > >>>> OS=Debian 4.0
> > >>>> rsyslog version: 3.18.2
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I attach the configuration files of the clients and the servers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The remote server is 192.1.4.215.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Rainer Gerhards wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> This sounds like you are overdoing "reliable delivery". But I
> > need
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> configs
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> and version information to tell you what may be the case. If it
> > is
> > >>>>>
> > >> an
> > >>
> > >>>> older
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> v3 version, this may also be a bug in rsyslog.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> HTH
> > >>>>> Rainer
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:rsyslog-
> > >>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mikel Jimenez
> > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:53 AM
> > >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> Subject: [rsyslog] server frozen when remote logging
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have 80 servers logging to a centralized rsyslog, and I have
> > >>>>>> experimented the kaos!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Accidentaly the central server shutdowns, and one hour later,
> > all
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> 80
> > >>>>>> servers frezze.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Can not access ssh, ping...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I use Debian in central server, and suse in nodes.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Mikel Jimenez Fernandez
> > >>>>>> Irontec, Internet y Sistemas sobre GNU/LinuX -
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> http://www.irontec.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> +34 94.404.81.82
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Mikel Jimenez Fernandez
> > >>>> Irontec, Internet y Sistemas sobre GNU/LinuX -
> > >>>>
> > >> http://www.irontec.com
> > >>
> > >>>> +34 94.404.81.82
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> Mikel Jimenez Fernandez
> > >> Irontec, Internet y Sistemas sobre GNU/LinuX -
> > http://www.irontec.com
> > >> +34 94.404.81.82
> > >>
> > >>
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> > --
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> > Irontec, Internet y Sistemas sobre GNU/LinuX - http://www.irontec.com
> > +34 94.404.81.82
> >
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