Hi Lin,

Is the integration of 5G and satellite networks part of your research ?. 3GPP has started the work on this integration and already has work items (WI) for Rel 17 and 18 to address this issue. There are already few recent related publications. For example, here is a recent survey: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9193893. I am not sure if O-RAN is currently working on this issue ?

Thanks

Hesham

On 7/7/2021 10:18 AM, Lin Han wrote:

Hi, Hesham

Thanks for the info.

The reference from prof. Mark has been given in the draft as [UCL-Mark-Handley] (sec. 7.2.2), the paper has demonstrated that satellite relay can achieve shorter latency than ground fiber network through simulation.

But for commercial use and widely deployment, IETF still needs technologies/protocols to solve issues in “multiple satellite relay”, such as path/satellite selection, IP continuity, etc. Enhanced or new anchor-less mobility technologies might be needed to handle so quick/frequent hands over and topology changes.

Regards

Lin

*From:* Hesham ElBakoury <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:51 PM
*To:* Lin Han <[email protected]>
*Cc:* UTTARO, JAMES <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

Mark Handley published the paper "*Using ground relays for low-latency wide-area routing in megaconstellations"* to show that even if we do not have ISL we can use ground terminals to route traffic with better latency than fiber links.

Thanks

Hesham

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 10:08 AM Lin Han <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi, Jim

    I don't have clear answer.
    What I can guess now is that most of current technologies (with
    enhancement) can be used, but some new technologies might be
    needed to solve the satellite specific issues, such as fast
    mobility, frequent topology changes, constraints in satellite
    power, security in open space, etc.
    It is up to the community to decide what new technologies and what
    new protocols will be developed.

    Regards

    Lin


    -----Original Message-----
    From: UTTARO, JAMES <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:20 AM
    To: Lin Han <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: RE: New Version Notification for
    draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

    Lin,

            Are you suggesting that the current set of protocols can
    be used with or without enhancements or is the uniqueness of the
    satellite network require new protocol(s) to address the
    architecture you have laid out..

    Thanks,
            Jim Uttaro

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Idr <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On
    Behalf Of Lin Han
    Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2021 8:41 PM
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: [Idr] FW: New Version Notification for
    draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

    Hi,

    This draft analyzed the problems and requirements for the
    satellite network when it is integrated with Internet by current
    routing technologies.
    It may be relevant and interesting to internet, BGP, IGP. The
    further solution proposals may also come from different groups
    including research initiative SARAH.

    Look forwarding to discussion and comments.

    Thanks

    Lin

    -----Original Message-----
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    To: Lin Han <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>; Richard Li
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Subject: New Version Notification for
    draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt


    A new version of I-D,
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    Revision:       00
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    Abstract:
       This document presents the detailed analysis about the problems and
       requirements of satellite constellation used for Internet.  It
    starts
       from the satellite orbit basics, coverage calculation, then it
       estimates the time constraints for the communications between
       satellite and ground-station, also between satellites.  How to use
       satellite constellation for Internet is discussed in details
       including the satellite relay and satellite networking.  The
    problems
       and requirements of using traditional network technology for
       satellite network integrating with Internet are finally outlined.




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