The issues raise in the RTIs no doubt relate to security hassle, infact more
to public hassle and that too affects ego and sense of self importance more
than anything else. The real way to handle such problems is public outcry in
recorded fashion. The need is to urge the authorities to have a public
complaint/ suggestion register in easy accessible area (not with Airport
manager who will ask the reason and content of your recording first before
handing it over). Observations such as these need to be recorded in public
documents and then use RTI for action else the public authorities will
escape the snarl as they did in this case.

 

Maybe if the authorities have guts have a online version also, let the world
read what people feel, write and the authorities' response to the same.

 

Only one updation: I think photography is allowed in the public area of the
airport (say baggage area/ check in area) now without permission. 

 

May be it would be more useful to actually force authorities using RTI to do
needful. Say ask them the location of the Register, can one flick pages and
read the notings of previous authors, statistics on record of public
complaints, public policy/ charter in respect of such complaints etc.

 

Sj

 

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanjay
Shirodkar
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:54 AM
To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [kria] RE: [rti_india] Re: RTI applications in actuals.

 

Dear Ashish,

I have every reason and justification behind all my RTI applications. I work
where our Chief Mentor is Dr. Vijay Bhatkar, who is the creator of Super
Computer of India and also we work closely with C-DAC which has mandate by
government to spread IT in India. So I get very less time to work for my RTI
activities. As a responsible citizen of India I am doing this. Not a single
application is for my personal benefit. Forget all my applications.. I am
submitting my Airport case the Questions & Answers and my observations. ...

Following is the case with Airport Authority of India, Mumbai & New Delhi.
My questions and their official answers. 

1. Is parking FREE for all Embassy Vehicles at all Airports in India? If
yes, the need a copy of GR or Notification regarding this order. How Mumbai
Police and RTO are being informed?

AAI reply: No Sir. When the authorized embassy vehicle is parked in the
designated VIP car parking area no fee is charged, whereas if the said
vehicle is parked in the paid parking area, charges as applicable are
collected. There is no GR or Notification issued.

2. How far Embassy vehicle can be parked from all the Terminus
buildings?

AAI reply: Embassy vehicles can only go upto the designated VIP car parking
area or upto the Terminal Building to drop or receive passenger.

3. If this facility is there then is it valid only when the Ambassador
is with the vehicle or is it applicable to all staff of Embassy? 

AAI reply: Embassy vehicle which comes to receive / see off the ambassador
is entitled to park in designated VIP car park area.

4. Please provide a copy of "List of all Embassy's and there respective
vehicle's number plate details." 

AAI reply: Since no policy on the subject has been issued, desired
information is not available.

5. Please provide a copy of all approved rates & brands of Mineral Water
which is sold at Chhatrapati Shivaji International airport.

AAI reply: May be advised by M/s. MIAL.

My actual observations are as follows,

After my case I cud figure lot of changes and new options at AAI website.
Any ways I am studying that. When go to Airport (Arrival 2A or 2C at CSIA-
Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport) you get to see following, 

* Almost 2-3 hours embassy vehicles are parked near Terminal
buildings. (This is my major concern, any terrorist group can take advantage
of this) 

* Embassy vehicle is supposed to stop near terminal building only to
receive or drop Ambassador, this does not happen. 

* In this scenario Driver should be with the vehicle, but this also
does not happen. 
* 
* No one stops them and questions them. On the contrary Police
troubles common passenger and their vehicles. Especially Traffic Police
leave out 

MH-01, MH-02, MH-03, MH-04, but rest all vehicles are stopped and
questioned. This is beyond my imagination. 

* When I spoke to Mumbai Police & Mumbai Traffic Police, they are
helpless. 

* Airport staff allows their relative without ticket in welcome
lounge. (Major revenue loss of our government)

* Prices of snacks and mineral water are sky high. As per law it
should not but no one questions. (It's a different story all together, as I
have 2 one litre Kinley mineral water bottles with different MRP's. This
clear cut violation of rules on part of COCA COLA.) 

* Airport Manager is manner less while speaking to people and has very
less information with him. (He is located near Departure, 2nd floor) 

* In case of any query he straight away redirects query to Airlines. 

* When you go to enquire with Airlines, you are not allowed in side as
security stops you from going inside. 2-3 Central Jawans sits their, you
will find them chatting most of the times and they have made surroundings
shabby by spitting pans, guthakas, tobacco etc. (This is shame for INDIA.) 

* Smoking is not allowed any where but you will find AAI employees
breaking the law all the time. No one questions them. 

* Cafeteria is a big mess. (located at 2nd floor) 

* Passenger and their relatives are supposed to take permission when
ever they are using their still or video cameras, but no one from security
cross check this. You will find every tom, dick and harry is shooting
khullam khulla. 

* While entering in to Arrival or Departure you need official ticket
or official pass. Jawans needs to check also, but if you observe,
seriousness is lacking. This activity is happening at one of busiest airport
of our country. 

My only concern is security is not up to the mark. 

Dear Ashish,

If you are satisfied, then my request to you is to think twice before
putting any stinker. You also can do this activity at the airport in or
around your city. 

Warm Regards,

Sanjay Shirodkar

Pune

09850147083.

_____ 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On
Behalf
Of ashish kr1965
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
Subject: [rti_india] Re: RTI applications in actuals.

Dear Sarbajit
If Mr.Shirodkar is representative of majority of
Indians using RTI then it perhaps it is time to
scrap this law. Reading his requests it is difficult
to decipher why he is asking for all this information
and more importantly what he plans to do with it.
Usually though we find the RTI individual applicants
to be frustrated people who have nothing better to
do than waste public servants time by paying
10 rupees and then not collecting the information
when we ask for Rs.26,732 to give him the information
he wants which my staff have gathered with great
effort and diversion of resources. Was Sh.Shirodkar
denied a free pass to watch cricket match by
Sharad Pawar? Was he not allowed to park his
bicycle in parking spot occupied by US Embassy
car at Airport? Consider this from the PIO P.O.V,
how can PIO help applicant of he does not know
WHY the information is being requested. I value
the views of other members on my random observations.
Ashish

=== in [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ===
>Hi Sanjay,
>
>Thanks for putting up your various
>applications to this group.
>What can we say, BUT ??
>
>1) Generally Irresponsible?
>2) You have not anticipated PIO's defenses.

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