It is the duty of any Moderator to read any Mail which he or she wants to or wishes or likely to Censure in detail and probably several times without going into who has sent the mail . If mail is clearly read in detail , it is an Translation of an News item Appearing in a Leading News Paper being Published from Mangalore . The Editor of News Paper is Mr B V Seetharam who was unwarentedly haressed and Handcuffed by the Police in the case of Disappearance of a wife of an MLA from Udupi and her consequent death in New delhi . That apart , If you can spare some minutes and read the Mail sent by me you Will see in the Opening Paragraph Itself the Telephone numbers of the News Paper which for more berivity I reapat as City office 2410835 and Editorial 2405283 . Further and needless to state I have also Given to you a Post script at the End of the My Mail that i have the News Paper Clipping with me . The News Item has appeared in an News paper Registred with Registrar of News Papers and is Bound By PRB Act , Press council and Various Ethics and Self Imposed Dictacts of News papers and thier Editors and Publishers. It is for the purpoted affected people to file defamation suits on purpoted allegations of corruptions and not to an yahoo group , even if such a suit is initiated it will be proper for them to make me the originator of mail for which i have become already fully liabile and as an responsible and law abideing citizen it it now my responsibility to defend such suit when such a circumstance will crop up . Needless please also note that i have very valid supports to state i am not an rumor monger but is reffereing to an Article in an News paper Further the News item Speaks of an allegation Made by a Soverien citizen of India who has Excersied his Fundamental Right to Information. Further I am Not at all Aware or have been given to understand whether the News paper in which the Report/article has appeared has an Web Link and even if available can be accessed by you and me who are not their Subscribers (which rule Most News papers do follow) In final comment of your all pervasive Moderation which is beyond scope of the Transperancy Accountability and Public Participation and also the peamble of the RTI Act for which i understand that i am spending my time energy and personal resources , My Mail has already appeared in all the Other RTI groups Spread us the Country and must have by this time reached several thousands of RTI Activists , Crusaders , Users and also Several luminaries who have given thier life for the cause of RTI and we respect their Contributions . I would Singularly state i will in no way be harmed , hindered or the Cause of RTI will not be dented in any way if one minuscule group does not carry a replica of an News Item appearing in an Leading News paper with an Readership of several Lakhs I have also decided to Send my Reply above to all the All India Level RTI Groups for their Kind information and Needful pursuance , comments and suggestions and also further action N vikramsimha , Trustee RTI Study centreKRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
--- On Fri, 3/7/09, Kathyayini Chamaraj <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Kathyayini Chamaraj <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: MODERATE -- [email protected] posted to kria > To: [email protected] > Cc: "Anil kumar" <[email protected]>, "Palyam Suresh" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, 3 July, 2009, 5:59 PM > Dear Mr. Vikram Simha, > Please give the link to the article that you are > quoting or cut and paste it into the message. Otherwise, > since there are references to corruption in KIC for which > there is no proof, we may not be able to carry the > message. > > Regards, > Kathyayini Chamaraj > Moderator > > > On 7/3/09, Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Vikram Simha <[email protected]> > To: Karnataka Intiative RTI <[email protected]> > > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:41:53 +0530 (IST) > Subject: Tornado in Karnataka Information commission -- > News Item in Karavali Ale From Mangalore > > Dear all, > I Have Today received the News published in Karavali ale A > Leading News papwer From Mangalore Dated 25.06.2009n(Phone > city office 2410835 Editorial 2405283) > > A Breif Translation of The News in English From Kannada > TORNADO IN KARNATAKA INFORMATION COMMISSION > Report From the Capital - Bangalore > We Have received Reports that the Information Commission > which is To Hear appeals from Citizens who have been denied > getting Information are being Treated inhuimanly , These > Reports Are From Activists as well as several NGOs working > on RTI implementation . A Complaint on this Working has > already been taken upto the Governor Office and to his > Notice . > > The Complaint to the Governor has been Made against three > Information Commissioners Namely KK Mishra , KA Tippeswamy > &Dr. H N Krishna who instead of Properly Looking into > the RTI Appeals and Complaints are Giving or Delivering > Orders Favouring the PIOs who are the Resondents and accused > of Not Parting with Information which is a Complaint of > Grave Nature . > > Recently During the Hearing of a Citizen seeking > Information , The staff of the Information Commission Abused > and Attacked and Degenrated him which was Vehemently opposed > by RTI Groups and Centres , Information commission Being an > Statutory Body which should have encouraged and Supported > Activists and Crusaders has insted of protecting them has > wrong Stand /stance of Opposing is an Evidence of this > Tornado. > > There is Rampant corruption in the Karnataka information > commission is what Rumors going Round in Adminstrative > Corriodors and as if to support and substantiate these > Rumors the information commissioners are regularly > meeting the Accused PIOs in thier Chambers and such evidence > is also provided to the Governor . > > In Several cases The Erring Respondent PIOs are Not all > Issued Show cause Notiuces but the appeals are Turned Down > or Disn\missed by Dr H N Krishna CIc is Fraught with > Several other Considreations also reveals the Relationship > that the Commissioner has with the Erring PIOs is what is > contained in the Complaint Made By Mr Venkatesh Bhiovi of > Bangalore with an Specfic Instance to the Governor . > > Mr Bhovi Has Further Demanded Removal Or immediate > Supspension of Dr H N Krishna CIc for The Disposal of > Appeals & complaints Without Proper Enquiry and Hearing > . > In the Meanwhile About 30 RTI Users met the SCIC Mr KK > Mishra , KA Tippeswamy and Mr Virupaxiah and Explained to > them the Experiences Rather Sad ones during the Hearings . > They also Urged that an Common Ethics and the All CIC Should > have Common Code of Conduct which was agreed by Mr Mishra > which was Conveyed by Sri B H veeresha to Y(o)ur News paper > . > > PS; I have The News paper clipping with Me in Kannada > N vikramsimha , Trustee RTI study centre & KRIA Katte , > #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < > Bangalore 560004. > > > Looking for local information? 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