Dear freinds , 
I Have not cut the tail of this link only That every body should Known Why This 
Ammendement to Rules Was introduced .The First Mail by Leslie From Mumbai 
Creats Lots of apprehensions as it does not give Exactly what the Rule Ammended 
is .
Yes Our Group is also One along With Mr YGM and CHRI who Have Continiously 
opposing this ammendement .
A Few Clarifications , There were a few RTI Applications Before KIC which Had 
More than 180 Questions (3 in particular - 1 on Blore University &2 on Village 
Pancyaths) ,All the 3 RTI requesters were very perfect in That They wanted to 
known In go Everything 
Think of an Grama Pancyath with one Secrtary & One bill Collector Providing All 
documents for the past 5 years of Subsidy , meetings , salary etc etc in Go .
The pother thing is 150 Words in One query (see Parlimentary Procedure -- 
shakdars) Which means as Nayak has said You got be precise .
Yes we are following this even Today and we only provided the news that this 
Ammendement has become infructous as it is not tabled in the Legistlature as 
Per The Section in RTI Act .We Met Our Law Minister also in the matter 
Please also note that with rule 14 Your request For info is not summarily 
rejected But , the PIO has to request you Reply to your first query and then 
request for Making Another RTI request if You ask For Two matters in the Same 
RTI Request .
So to avoid We Have and Are adopting Mentioning -- SUBJECT -- working of 
Village pancyath and Regarding Right to information -- how can the PIO Reject 
under Rule .
There are certain tricks they can play on us and we have to do some Counter 
tricks 
finally We as Policy do not Want any ammendements any where -- to the Act --- 
to the rules or an fresh Act to Nullify the Power of RTI 

N vikramsimha , Trustee RTI Study Centre & KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N 
Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Jitendra P. Shah <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Jitendra P. Shah <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005!
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 11:50 AM


  



Even CIC is also thinking on getting such amendments to Central RTI rules.

J. P. Shah Junagadh-Gujarat 09924106490
MY BLOG: www.jps50. blogspot. com 

--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Venkatesh Nayak <venkat...@humanrigh tsinitiative. org> 
wrote:

From: Venkatesh Nayak <venkat...@humanrigh tsinitiative. org>
Subject: RE: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005!
To: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 10:54 AM

  

Dear all,
This is just to clarify, Karnataka had added a new Rule 14 to the existnig
RTI Rules. They have not changed the Act as they do not have the legislative
competence to do so. It is an Act that parliament passed, only Parliament
can amend it. We have strongly opposed Rule 14 from day one. Some activists
in Karnataka like Mr. Y G Muralidhar and his network are amongst the few
people who protested vociferously against this new Rule. I am not aware if
other activists also took up this matter as strongly as Muralidhar and his
group. The funny thing is this Rule has not been table in the legislatrue I
am told. We wanted to oppose it there, however there has been an unusual
delay in its tabling. Sadly the Karnataka Rule has been replicated in
Chhattisgarh recently according to media reports. Some activists have
opposed it there also. but others have not taken it seriously.
My own applications rarely cross the 150-200 words as it is important to be
brief and precise in drafting RTI applications. However that is a personal
standard I have chosen. I do not think it is fair for the government to
impose similar limits through subordinate legislation.
Thanks
Venkat

_____ 

From: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:rti_ in...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf
Of LESLIE ALMEIDA
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:46 AM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005!

Dear RTI Activists

Recently, I was shocked and left speechless to hear
that karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005 by enacting their own RTI Act,
2006 in which one can ask only single question or query besides teh words
cannot exceed more then 150 words!
What was more shocking and eeric that it was drafted by the CIC
of Karnataka Mr.Misra(former Chief Secretray) and cleared by
the Karnataka Govt to help hide the illegalities of the
Government besdies sealed the unknown skeletons which would
have tumbled out of the closet! 

I hope the trend does not catch up with the Maharashtra or other state
Government! it may come out with one word per application!
however we in Maharashtra specially Mumbai are strong body of activists
who will oppose such move tooth and nail should some thing like this happens
here.

Leslie Almeida

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