Dear Vikramji, That is a useful tip on how to overcome the one subject matter only restriction. I hope friends in Chhattisgarh are listening. Thanks Venkat
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vikram Simha Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005! Dear freinds , I Have not cut the tail of this link only That every body should Known Why This Ammendement to Rules Was introduced .The First Mail by Leslie From Mumbai Creats Lots of apprehensions as it does not give Exactly what the Rule Ammended is . Yes Our Group is also One along With Mr YGM and CHRI who Have Continiously opposing this ammendement . A Few Clarifications , There were a few RTI Applications Before KIC which Had More than 180 Questions (3 in particular - 1 on Blore University &2 on Village Pancyaths) ,All the 3 RTI requesters were very perfect in That They wanted to known In go Everything Think of an Grama Pancyath with one Secrtary & One bill Collector Providing All documents for the past 5 years of Subsidy , meetings , salary etc etc in Go . The pother thing is 150 Words in One query (see Parlimentary Procedure -- shakdars) Which means as Nayak has said You got be precise . Yes we are following this even Today and we only provided the news that this Ammendement has become infructous as it is not tabled in the Legistlature as Per The Section in RTI Act .We Met Our Law Minister also in the matter Please also note that with rule 14 Your request For info is not summarily rejected But , the PIO has to request you Reply to your first query and then request for Making Another RTI request if You ask For Two matters in the Same RTI Request . So to avoid We Have and Are adopting Mentioning -- SUBJECT -- working of Village pancyath and Regarding Right to information -- how can the PIO Reject under Rule . There are certain tricks they can play on us and we have to do some Counter tricks finally We as Policy do not Want any ammendements any where -- to the Act --- to the rules or an fresh Act to Nullify the Power of RTI N vikramsimha , Trustee RTI Study Centre & KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004. --- On Wed, 29/7/09, Jitendra P. Shah <jpsha...@yahoo. <mailto:jpshah50%40yahoo.co.in> co.in> wrote: From: Jitendra P. Shah <jpsha...@yahoo. <mailto:jpshah50%40yahoo.co.in> co.in> Subject: RE: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005! To: rti_in...@yahoogrou <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 11:50 AM Even CIC is also thinking on getting such amendments to Central RTI rules. J. P. Shah Junagadh-Gujarat 09924106490 MY BLOG: www.jps50. blogspot. com --- On Wed, 29/7/09, Venkatesh Nayak <venkat...@humanrigh tsinitiative. org> wrote: From: Venkatesh Nayak <venkat...@humanrigh tsinitiative. org> Subject: RE: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005! To: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 10:54 AM Dear all, This is just to clarify, Karnataka had added a new Rule 14 to the existnig RTI Rules. They have not changed the Act as they do not have the legislative competence to do so. It is an Act that parliament passed, only Parliament can amend it. We have strongly opposed Rule 14 from day one. Some activists in Karnataka like Mr. Y G Muralidhar and his network are amongst the few people who protested vociferously against this new Rule. I am not aware if other activists also took up this matter as strongly as Muralidhar and his group. The funny thing is this Rule has not been table in the legislatrue I am told. We wanted to oppose it there, however there has been an unusual delay in its tabling. Sadly the Karnataka Rule has been replicated in Chhattisgarh recently according to media reports. Some activists have opposed it there also. but others have not taken it seriously. My own applications rarely cross the 150-200 words as it is important to be brief and precise in drafting RTI applications. However that is a personal standard I have chosen. I do not think it is fair for the government to impose similar limits through subordinate legislation. Thanks Venkat _____ From: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:rti_ in...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of LESLIE ALMEIDA Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:46 AM To: undisclosed recipients: Subject: [rti_india] Fw: Karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005! Dear RTI Activists Recently, I was shocked and left speechless to hear that karnataka has changed the RTI Act, 2005 by enacting their own RTI Act, 2006 in which one can ask only single question or query besides teh words cannot exceed more then 150 words! What was more shocking and eeric that it was drafted by the CIC of Karnataka Mr.Misra(former Chief Secretray) and cleared by the Karnataka Govt to help hide the illegalities of the Government besdies sealed the unknown skeletons which would have tumbled out of the closet! I hope the trend does not catch up with the Maharashtra or other state Government! it may come out with one word per application! however we in Maharashtra specially Mumbai are strong body of activists who will oppose such move tooth and nail should some thing like this happens here. Leslie Almeida [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! 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