Dear Moderators of RTI Group, 
Thanks for this Mail , So you have oputsourced The Group and its Poll and the 
Messages related to the poll to another Yahoo group. Constantly I am reminding 
this Group which carries Each and every message in rti_india group virtually 
clogging in boxes and repeting all and sundry . When i wrote to them these 
moderators stated that it will deprive them and their group members of 
Information .
NOW , What are achiving by Posting an Very limited Poll meant for one group 
along with Messages Related to that poll . Arguably they may say since we are 
members of this Group , you are Depriving our members of the poll also .
Is this not a blunder .
I hope rti_india group Moderators will think of some method's to ensure our 
privacy of the poll is retained at least till the Polling period , this is just 
like prepoll survey 

N vikramsimha , Trustee RTI Study Centre &KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N 
Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

--- On Thu, 29/10/09, Kathyayini Chamaraj <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Kathyayini Chamaraj <[email protected]>
Subject: [kria] Fwd: [rti_india] New poll for rti_india
To: "kria" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 29 October, 2009, 8:29 PM


  



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorsatish@ yahoo.com>
Date: Oct 29, 2009 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [rti_india] New poll for rti_india
To: rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com

Hi all

There are three issues involved in this clause.

1) use of RTI to obstruct working of Govt

2) Use of RTI to victimise honest officers

3) File notings

1. Use of RTI to obstruct working of Govt is very tricky issue, every RTI
application seeking information can be termed as " obstructing working of
Govt" particularly where vested interests of corrupt officers are
involved.How group will define, whether particular issue or information
being sought is obstructing work of Govt or not.I CAN FIND EXECUSES AND
ARGUMENTS IN EVERY APPLICATION UNDER RTI ACT, OBSTRUCTING WORKING OF GOVT.

2. I agree that RTI should not be used to victimise honest officers.

3. File notings are integeral part of decision making disclosure of which
cannot be termed as obstructing working of Govt or victimising honest
officers.

I thing we can discuss three issues seperatelly and seek voting.

Satish
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*From:* "rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com" <rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com>
*To:* rti_in...@yahoogrou ps.com
*Sent:* Thu, October 29, 2009 1:12:56 AM
*Subject:* [rti_india] New poll for rti_india

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
rti_india group:

I vote to delete principle 6 from this group's Code for Ethical RTIers.

The principle reads as follows:

"vi) To appreciate that the "Right to Information" ought not to be used
by patriotic citizens so as to obstruct the working of their
Government, or to victimise honest and efficient officers etc. by
allowing access to "file notings"."

VOTE: YES to delete this clause, NO to retain it, UNDECIDED if no opinion.

o YES
o NO
o UNDECIDED

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rti_ india/surveys?
id=12957245<http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rti_ india/surveys? id=12957245>

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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