respected nutunji
when Islam says "stone to death to rapist" learned people like you oppose it
tooth and nail saying this punishment is barberic.Can u stop rapes by giving
peanut punishments to rapists ???
Ruchika lost her life and after ninteen years he got 6 months punishments .
can such long long waited rotten justice system and peanut punishments stops
molestation ?????

answer is NO NO NO .

Try to implement ISLAMIC punishment to molestors and rapists for one year in
India and see if molestations and rapes are gone down or increased.

YOU do not want to take medicines and want to get cure . This is not
possible madam.



On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Nutan Thakur <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
>   Friends, I present a live case before u. It started with my putting
> forth a small statement- ""A Lt General accused of molesting a Colonel's
> wife is thrown out of Army. Ye kya ho raha hai?" on the social networking
> site Facebook. To this there were different answers but the one that really
> stunned me was from a friend w...hose view was that- " No man can molest a
> woman , and that too a married woman of force ... NEVER , without her
> willing consent". He also says that - "I have always observed ... that this
> type of stupid behaviour is common in love affairs".
> It is this statement by an otherwise learned and sober person that I want
> to present before you all for discussion and opinion making. To me the
> person who made the statement is not important, nor is my idea to criticize
> him or to dissect his background. To me what really matters is the fact that
> even today, in the 21st Century, there is a male perception that goes on to
> say that molestation of a woman (particularly a married woman) is not
> possible (without her consent). If slightly extended this statement comes to
> mean that molestation, rape and such other lurid and heinous crimes against
> women are simply not possible as long as the women are not a party to it.
> Frankly I not only completely disagree with this statement but also find it
> absolutely sickening. And also terrifying. Terrifying because it is this
> kind of male mind-set that is responsible for many heinous and dangerous
> crimes against women go completely unheard and unpunished. What this
> gentleman is saying might as well be the mental thought process of the Judge
> or the Magistrate who has been given the responsibility of delivering
> Justice. And if the person has already made a presumption that there can't
> be a crime of this nature against a woman (more so in the case of married
> women), then one can understand what kind of justice is the woman going to
> get from the concerned court.
> We have seen the dramatic version of these situations in the celebrated
> film "Damini" where "Taarikh pe taarikh" could not give justice to the raped
> woman till the very end. We also know of such widely discussed cases on rape
> like the Mathura rape case and Bhanwari Devi case where victim had to pass
> through such insulting times even in the law courts that it led to great
> revolt and resistance by the women activists from all over India. But it
> seems that no change of law and regulations on Rape has been able to
> actually change the deep-rooted antipathy of this kind of people for whom
> women are nothing more than a plaything.
> If what these people say is true then what is the need of any law on Rape?
> Why have different sections on women abuse and molestation? I am not
> commenting at all on the case related with the Lt Genera in the Army where
> he lost his job due to the allegations made by a Colonel's wife. Each case
> is different and must be treated so. I also don't say that women don't feign
> wrong abuse. In my husband Amitabh ji's policing career, I have myself come
> across such cases where it was clear that the woman is making false
> accusations. I remember a case in Gagaha police station in Gorakhpur, when
> my husband was very new in the service and after a raid that he had
> conducted, the woman whom they had arrested with weapons had made written
> accusations of rape against 10-12 police officers, except luckily my
> husband. The matter got exposed within a day or two but it had given my
> husband a lot of mental harassment.
> But then to sweepingly generalize such a statement is really too much. In
> my opinion it shows the poor mental outlook and extremely biased world view
> of many of the male folk. It also gives the reason why still justice is
> being denied to one half of the human population in such a large measure.
> I as a social activist and a gender-rights activist not only strongly
> condemn such wrongly-placed mental outlook but also consider them extremely
> dangerous for the proper development and functioning of human society in a
> just manner. I know that such a statement by an individual is not really
> important, what actually counts is the overall gender perception. And this
> statement somehow seems to represent the same distorted gender perception
>
> Dr Nutan Thakur,
> Secretary,
> IRDS,
> Lucknow
> # 94155-34525
> 
>

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