CF, Java, C#.... won't much matter down the road anyway. Applications will
become less dependent on any given server technology, widgets served from
various sources connecting to data services all over the place on a mish
mash of platforms. Mashups are the future, as is browser based development.
The new debates will be about whose "mashup/widget platform" is better. This
will continue to proliferate in the "main stream" (meaning non-enterprise)
as it is now and then move itself deeply into the enterprise. Your
javascript skills are the most important ones you can hone right now.


On 1/30/07, The Manhatten Project <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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> LOL, I wasnt bashing your bashing ;-), as everyone is entitled to an
> opinion and a preference when it comes to coding.  I do agree that a
> few years ago CF was old and clunky but now with CF in all reality
> just Java it has so many more possiblilties in the OO arena, MVC is
> everywhere now within CF, CF is stronger than ever now and with CF8 on
> the horizon things are looking good!
>
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> On Jan 30, 10:28 am, Christophe Porteneuve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey there (what's your name, btw?),
> >
> > The Manhatten Project a écrit :
> >
> > > "Coldfusion (for crying out loud!) "I admit to gratuituous slight
> bashing due to possibly obsolete
> > encounters with the technology, quite a few years back.
> >
> > I used ColdFusion back when Allaire still existed...  At the time, I
> > didn't like it at all, for a number of reasons: way too closed a dev
> > universe, way too little horsepower, clumsy syntax, difficulty for
> > MVC-like practices, and the like.
> >
> > Then Macromedia (yeah, noticed your e-mail address) bought Allaire,
> > turned HomeSite into something a bit bulky, and started working on
> > ColdFusion at some point.  I hear all kinds of things now, so for all I
> > know, it's better.  It's certainly still out there, which amazes me a
> > bit.  (But then, diversity is good for competition and innovation, isn't
> > it?)
> >
> > I just, on principle, wouldn't buy into a non-OSS server-side tech.  So
> > I go RoR now, and use PHP or J2EE-related FLOSS stacks when I must.
> >
> > But again, and for the record: I'm absolutely no CF expert, and my rare
> > experiences with it are way old.
> >
> > It seems much like the outsider in the server-side world though, so "for
> > crying out loud!" also referred to its, er... exotic label now? :-)
> >
> > --
> > Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
>


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