Hey Ryan,

Ryan Gahl a écrit :
> It's for enterprise caliber application development on a large scale 
> with minimal effort. Not something anyone is ever going to attempt with 
> Ruby (at least anyone in their right minds). Yes, java is a fine 

Now you are (slightly) bashing as well.  I take issue with the "ever" 
part.  As of today, Ruby and Rails certainly can and do provide 
enterprise-scale apps with minimal effort, and although this requires 
some skill now and then (particularly to properly scale up the server 
side), the trend towards better and smoother scaling in the RoR world is 
clear.

I would like this not to keep sliding off into a flamewar, as it seems 
to be now.  We all have various languages, tools and overall frameworks 
we favor.  I, for one, have spent enough time on Java and J2EE, C++, 
Delphi, Ruby/RoR and (from a strictly non-prod standpoint) .NET to like 
many features of C# anyway.

It is, as you said, a matter of TCO, which includes the critical factor 
of vendor lock-in.  Not on the tooling anymore (though it certainly 
remains, so far, easier and more productive to use VS.NET than other 
tools, except maybe for Borland's), but certainly on the language, which 
is not, IIRC, as open and standards-based nowadays as it was first 
advocated to be.

So it's TCO.  And personal taste.  Here we get people who love ASP.NET 
(as long as they stay away from VB, I can accept the notion ;-)), J2EE 
(with whichever frameworks permutation they use), ColdFusion (as we saw 
recently!), PHP, RoR or Delphi.  It's fine.  To each their own.

-- 
Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD
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