Why should those J2EE guys have all the nice toys? I want my life made easier too!
There are reasons why IDEs for RoR haven't all been stellar, one being that all that metaprogramming magic must make Rails a really slippery framework to build tools for, another the insane pace of change over the last year or two. And most importantly the problem of competing with free, and selling to programmers who are acclimatised to working with open source tools (thus the prices for software like RubyMine which in any other market would be absurdly low). It's one thing to say that IDEs for Rails aren't very good (for reasons x, y and z). Another to just generalise that we don't need no stinking IDE. That sounds dangerously close to a kind of programmers' machismo. Me, personally, I can't get enough automation. Anything my machine can do is something I don't have to. Scrolling through an RDoc page for the 100th time is a waste of my time if my IDE can remind me of what I'm looking for immediately. And I most especially want as much debugging help as possible. Mark On 13 October 2010 20:55, Marnen Laibow-Koser <[email protected]> wrote: > pepe wrote in post #949821: > >> Likely what happened. In the context of the discussion as a whole, I > >> thought you were comparing IDEs and other editors. Apparently you > >> weren't. Sorry for misunderstanding. > > > > Same here. > > > >> >> And you don't need an IDE for that. > > [...] > >> Because there are other tools out there providing equivalent > >> functionality without the disadvantages? > > > > What disadvantages? > > IDEs are often bloated and difficult to use compared to editors. For > developing with technologies like J2EE, you need the extra power and > features to make your life easier. For developing with technologies > like Rails, the extra features just get in the way and slow things down. > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > [email protected] > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
