Hi Marc,

Ah, I see a "moderator approval" message in my incoming mbox file,
which must be being sorted off somewhere else before I see my inbox.
I'm sorry for the confusion, and for wasting your time - it's probably
best not to talk about this or try to fix it because part of the
problem is that I'm using a broken mail setup, because my usual system
broke on an Ubuntu upgrade, and that's also why I'm writing you about
changes made to rxvt-unicode in the past few years. Thank you for
moderating my messages.

> > The application was not requesting for the cursor to blink.
> 
> The app in question is emacs, and we already know that emacs does
> it. Which app do you refer to, if not emacs?

Emacs does not request for Urxvt to blink the cursor. It requests for
Urxvt to make it "very visible". I requested for Urxvt to make it "not
blink". Given those two requests, I think the correct action is
something other than "make it blink". The terminfo man page gives the
example of turning the cursor from an underline to a block, for
example, when cvvis is received, as an alternative to making it blink.

Even if there were a specific terminfo capability to make the cursor
blink, I would expect to be able to turn it off on my terminal, just
like the bell and other things which various applications could do to
annoy me. I can't control what sort of configurations I'll encounter
in every system I log in to, and don't necessarily want to learn about
the configuration of every application that could send cvvis. You seem
to have a different philosophy, in which case just refer to the above
paragraph.

Note that I personally also want rxvt-unicode to not receive
rmcup/smcup - this behavior is also configurable with xterm
(titeInhibit), but until it is configurable with rxvt-unicode, I'll
have to be using a custom terminfo (that also solves the blinking
problem). So maybe you think that a custom terminfo is a better
solution, I don't know. Many applications are simply not configurable
to not send rmcup/smcup when they exit.

I notice that there is a 'blink' terminfo string for blinking text.
Although I've never encountered an application that uses it, my ideal
terminal would provide a way to turn off both blinking text and
blinking cursor. FWIW.

Best,

Frederick

P.S.: I have this 'vi' for some reason, perhaps it was installed with
the Arch base system:

$ pacman -Qi vi       
Name           : vi
Version        : 1:070224-1
Description    : The original ex/vi text editor
Architecture   : i686
URL            : http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/


On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:27:03AM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:25:23AM -0700, Frederik Eaton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > > What wasn't clear in the automated reply you got? Or did you not get a
> > > reply on your post?
> > 
> > I did not get an automated reply.
> 
> Then I am afraid you are losing e-mail somewhere on your side, the mail was
> successfully delivered to your MX (64.13.131.34) on "Jun 15 20:55:15" with
> status "250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as C2B1C2070A9C", which should be all that is
> needed to find out where it ended up.
> 
> > > > Would still be good to have a solution that works across all editors,
> > > 
> > > Which other editors enable blinking by default by using cvvis?
> > 
> > vi
> 
> Not the ones I tried recently - since vi is a class of editors, which one
> do you refer to?
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:28:58AM -0700, Frederik Eaton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > > We honour this. Urxvt also honours this. Urxvt also honours requests by
> > > applications to change this. And in this case, your application should
> > > also honour your request to not switch the cursor mode.
> > 
> > The application was not requesting for the cursor to blink.
> 
> The app in question is emacs, and we already know that emacs does
> it. Which app do you refer to, if not emacs?
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:33:41AM -0700, Frederik Eaton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > > I did not get an automated reply.
> > 
> > Well, I got a "Delivery status notification" a few hours later. Is
> > that what you meant? Should I be subscribed?
> 
> No, you got a message with subject "Your message to rxvt-unicode awaits
> moderator approval". Or at least, your provider got it, which would
> tell you that you do not need to be subscribed, but have to wait for
> moderation, which happened a bit later. It's perfectly fine to send mail
> to this list as non-subscriber (and best to mention this fact so people
> send you a reply diretcly).
> 
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