RRM called them Harriman Locomotives. The 2-10-2 was built long after
Harriman no longer owned the UPRR. The ICRR and the SOPAC was also
controlled by him for a while but I do not remember when he gave up
control of all three. I do believe he had nothing to do with the
2-10-2s.
Thank you
Larry Jackman
Boca Raton FL
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On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:59 PM, up148 wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Sorry for the delay but I just got home from work. I guess the
> specialness of these UP locomotives to me is just that. They are UP
> specific brass steam locomotives in S scale.....the first to be done
> in decades and the first to be done by RRM to my knowledge.
>
> We know if they are RRM imports they will be correctly detailed, they
> will be beautifully painted and have tons of correct details. Add to
> this the fact that they will run like swiss watches and you have
> something very special for UP modelers or anyone else collecting or
> running nice S scale steam locomotives.
>
> As far as what roads operated these engines I'm afraid it was pretty
> much the Union Pacific or their subsideraries like the OSL, OWR&N and
> LA&SL. But you would see them on most western roads (SP, WP and SF)
> mainlines as well as in the yards of these roads. I'm sure on
> occasion they were seen on other roads trackage as well.
>
> The UP 2-8-2's were first delivered in 1911 with 57" drivers which
> were later called "light mikes" to be used for passenger and freight
> service but proved too slow for passenger service. A second run came
> in 1911 with 63" drivers (and were called "heavy mikes" and were used
> for passenger service from Cheyenne and Denver to Ogden, Utah. They
> were the king of the road for the UP until replaced by the 2-10-2's
> and 4-8-2's. As with all Union Pacific engines they were modified
> over the years by the UP with the unique sweeney smoke stack, larger
> steam and sand domes, road specific plumbing, water heaters, pilots
> and snowplows that will all look great in "S" scale. They operated
> with several different sizes and styles of tenders and it sounds like
> RRM is going to offer some of these variations as well. The operated
> a long time and in 1955 18 2-8-2's were still in operation on the UP
> lines.
>
> The 2-10-2 was a 63" drivered locomotive that came about in the
> summer of 1917 for heavy freight operation. They were able to operate
> without help service on the 1.14% grade of the Wasatach division
> something the 2-8-2's could not do. The SP operated a very similar 2-
> 10-2 engine at the same time. Through out the depression years they
> were the standard power for the UP in Nebraska eastbound to KC and
> Council Bluffs until replaced by the 4-12-2's. 25 of these engines
> operated into the mid 50's. They had numerous modifications by the UP
> through-out there lifetime and used a multitude of tender
> configurations.
>
> So, yes I'm excited. The first brass UP steamer to be offered in S in
> almost two decades. You east road guys can appreciate what I'm
> talking about. All the previous brass UP engines have had serious
> problems in operation, scale or details except the OMI FEF-3 and they
> were built with 1980's technology. We've come a long way since then.
>
> I hope these offerings do well for RRM as I'd love to see a RRM
> BigBoy some day. So I think it is incredibly important that we
> support these UP engines. It sounds like Jim and Dan are sticking
> there collective necks out a mile so lets support them the best we
> can.
>
> Butch Holtgrieve
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