New Haven predecessor New York and New England used track pans in the 1890's, maybe the 1880's, with little old 4-4-0s. The "Big-Little RR", Jersey Central, had track pans for it's steam commuter trains at Dunnellen, NJ. The water scoops were mounted on their 4-6-0 camelbacks.
Pieter Roos --- Rollain Mercier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and he notes - > > I hate t' be 'picky' but the Central's pans were > steam heated during > the winter since the 1890s and the crew shed was a > boiler house. Pans > were as long as 2800 feet and located every forty or > so miles along > the main line between New York & Chicago. Usually > the were only > placed on the high speed center tracks as locals > using the outer pair > would take on water at station stops. > > Both freight and passenger trains scooped water at > high speeds once > tenders were fitted or built with venting pipes to > let air flow out > as water gushed in. I spoke to Carl Cantola, the > Central's chief > designer, back in the 80s about this and he said the > tender hatches > had to be left open or the pressure from the > incoming water would > blow them off the loco. > > Running out of water (or running low) before the > next pan was common > until longer pans were installed. Even then a > freight would > occasionally run low and need help to the next pan > or water plug. > Double headers were rare on the NYC and getting > enough water for both > locos was always a problem. > > You can see a typical pan setup in the site below > (scroll down to the > bottom article): > > http://www.aamrc.org/page.php?5 > > > Obviously a half-mile track pan on a model layout is > impractical but > a truncated version with the boiler house would be > interesting. A > smoke generator could be rigged to simulate the > spray as the loco > scoops water . > > Pans had a tapered bottom sheet that forced the > scoop back in the > tender if the fireman missed the end of pan signal. > Scoops had a > nasty habit of getting torn off until the tapers > were installed. > > The PRR had pans too, as well as the New Haven (at > one time). The > Michigan Central had them but the Big Four didn't. > > We sell a video (DVD or VHS) with a clip on NYC > track pans in action. > > http://stores.ebay.com/EMPORIUM-PICTURES_Railroad-Documentary-Videos_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ3QQftidZ2QQtZkm > > Look for NYC Collection Vol. I > > Raleigh in Maine where water pans are for the cats! > > > At 05:04 PM 6/7/2007, Edward Loizeaux wrote: > > >Gents... > > > >While working on my layout this morning, I > determined there was a > >suitable location on the mainline for a famous NYC > track pan. "What da > >heck is a track pan?" you ask.... > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Pieter E. Roos Railroad Home Page at www.geocities.com/pieter_roos/pieter_1.html Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
