Years ago the O scale community decided it was in their best interest to 
abandon the mainstream in favor of O specific publications and organizations.  
I don't think I understand why it is that S scale thinks it matters what Model 
Railroader does, or for that matter the NMRA.  They are devoted to N and HO, 
but mainly HO.  S scale has to stand on its own feet without any help from 
without.  HO will "always" be the dominant scale because it runs well, looks 
good, and can be fit into a reasonable space.  The proliferation of HO 
offerings is because of these facts, not the other way around.  Denying that 
makes us cranks, not holders of the holy grail.  O scale was never mentioned in 
MR either until one of their biggest advertisers, Atlas, went into O in a big 
way.  If Atlas ever buys S Helper Service or American Models you will see an 
instant jump in S stock.  I like S and am willing to put up with the 
limitations.  Most others don't see the point and frankly, I'm not all that
 certain we have a point to make other than we just fell in love with it.  In 
the days of open frame motors and analog controls, the extra mass of S had some 
commendable characteristics, but now? I'm not so sure how important it is.  I 
don't give a hoot about AF, and I don't particularly care what influence it had 
on S "scale".  I'm just happy so much is available now in scale equipment.
   
  For those of us who have a great deal more past than future I guess dwelling 
in the past has some comfort, but obvious as the phrase is, there's no "future" 
in it.  I'd like to see some effort expended by the "Prophets of S" on 
producing a publication like Joe Giannovario did for O scale.  He published a 
modern guide to O scale where enough pictures and information were presented in 
an attractive magazine format to make people believe that O scale had more than 
"history" to offer.  You will virtually never hear the name Lionel mentioned 
among O "scalers".  If this is a scale group, why is AF still so much a topic 
of conversation?
   
  Let's get out of the past and move on, taking advantage of our strengths, and 
blowing our own horn.  If anyone wants to begin the Guide to Modern S Scale, 
I'll volunteer to do what I can to help.  Maybe someone new and naive is needed 
to break with the past and be optimistic about the future.
   
  Ed Kozlowsky
  Sanford, Maine


Bill Rigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          I have read all the responses on the subject, however what is 
missing, is that in the eyes of Model Railroader, and Model Railroading, is 
that they just don't get it. 
>From their perspective, S is still a Toy Train scale, and not a "real" model 
>railroad scale. Even when the S manufactures place a full page ad, they still 
>write articles about scale autos in HO, and O, and don't ever mention S.
I have also noticed that when they print technical articles, they will for 
example say, wire size is 12 AWG, for O, 16 AWG for HO, and 20 AWG for N, and 
completely over look S. However they all say are publications for "all" Model 
Railroader.

Bill rigsby

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