If we're stuck in 1943 I see where our problem lies.
Ed Kozlowsky
Sitting by the wood stove in the same cold Maine
raleigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
and he notes -
The correct designation for 3/16ths scale modeling is S Gauge, not S
Scale. It was so named at the 1943 NMRA convention where a committee
headed by 'Tex' Guess with members Louis Hertz, Willis Stewart and
Rolllin Lobaugh, and others I can't recall, designated the names for
the various scales. As the story goes it was hot and the meeting was
held in a non air conditioned room. Zero or 0 Gauge (not 'Oh',
although it pronounced as such) was established as 1/2 of 2 1/2"
Gauge or 'Standard Gauge' which was also preferred of 2 1/4" track
gauge (also called Standard Gauge by some manufacturers). When it
came to "S", Louis Hertz wanted it called "H1" Gauge as it was 1/2 of
No.1 Gauge which was popular in Europe. He also proposed, as an
alternate, 'Theta Gauge' , the symbol for which represented a
geometric value. It was getting hotter and smokier as lengthy
discussions went on, so Tex called for a vote and Willis Stewart's
suggestion for 'S' was adopted due to the fact that the letter 'S'
appears several times in the scale (i. e. three sixteenths, one
sixty-fourth, seven eighths etc.). With that accomplished the meeting
ended and everyone headed for the bar!
The term 'S Scale' is a colloquialism used by those who feel that
there should be a distinction between those who use accurate rail
height and those who use the more common heights for 'Hi-Rail' or
'Tinplate'. In English grammar, 'scale' as applied to a drawing or
model requires dimensional data such as 1/4", 3/16", 1/8" etc. Since
there is no universally accepted letter designation for a dimension,
'S Scale' has no meaning to anyone but a select few hobbyists.
To most S Gaugers the term is adequate and acceptable, but there is a
certain faction that do not like it and go to great ends to make the
distinction. But in the long run, calling S Gauge 'S Scale' doesn't
make the hobby less enjoyable. Anyway, that's how I sees it...
Raleigh in cold Maine
www.emporiumpictures.com
At 04:37 PM 2/16/2008, rebendever wrote:
>Are you S Guage or S Standard Gauge and does the height of the rail
>determine whether you are or are not scale? The below text (actually
>taken out of context) caused me to think, why do S-folks use the term S
>Guage? FWIM HO Scalers do not call other HO Scalers who run their model
>trains on Code 100 (or bigger) track "Hi-Railers" like the S-folks do.
>Yes, I understand that the flanges are really wide on them AF , but
>have you seen the flanges on a Model Power unit?
>Perhaps this is indigenous to S-scale (& O scale, too?). Why do folks
>use the term S Guage? I have been called on the carpet for using S
>Guage in reference to AF modelers and if I have offended anyone, I
>sincerely apologize. After all, the majority of our "1:64 Modeling
>Guide" subscribers come from an AF background with aspirations of
>evolving to a more "scale-like" empire.
>And if you decide that the term "S Guage should no longer be used,
>would Don H. need to changer his magazine to the S Scaleian? I realize
>that all this may sould rediculous to many of you, but think how
>confusing it is to us newbies who come to S-ville from another scale
>only to find out that now up means down and so on.
>Structure determines behavior.
>
>Sincerely, Richard E Bendever, Editor
>"1:64 Modeling Guide" magazine | www.ModelingGuide.com
>
>--- In <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected],
>"ctxmf74" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
>Hi Ed, That's the question and answer. "Necessary" not for us to
> > enjoy S scale but for S scale to become an equal to HO scale.
>
>
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