The difference, John, is that we had to know what we were doing.

--- In [email protected], "John" <armstong5...@...> wrote:
>
> In a fog you acted like management, or an MBA                      John 
> Armstrong
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: shabbona_rr 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:28 PM
>   Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
> 
> 
>     
>   No, that's where proper training comes in. An experienced railroader knew 
> where he was. Inexperienced railroaders learned by watching how they did it. 
> That's why it took at least four years of working experience before a 
> trainman could take promotion to conductor, and an engineer (at least on 
> Southern Pacific) needed eight years - just to be a yard engineer.
> 
>   Two weeks of book and computer training by smart alecky chalk-twirling 
> college boy instructors just don't cut it - especially today!
> 
>   How do you think we ran in the fog?
> 
>   Bob Nicholson ________________________________________
> 
>   --- In [email protected], Jim and Cheryl Martin <farnhamhouse@> wrote:
>   >
>   > I'm curious so maybe the professional railroaders can help me out here. 
> If you 
>   > get distracted and lose count of the poles, do you have to back the train 
> up and 
>   > start over?
>   > 
>   > Just wondering
>   > Jim
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > ________________________________
>   > From: Andre Ming <laming@>
>   > To: [email protected]
>   > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 10:36:52 AM
>   > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
>   > 
>   > 
>   > We still use pole count on the A&M. 40 per mile.
>   > 
>   > Of course, most of the original telegraph poles are long gone, so we have 
>   > miles marked in 10 pole increments to help orient slow orders/etc. All 
> this 
>   > week, I had slow orders that basically read:
>   > 
>   > 10 MPH at:
>   > 
>   > MP. 417 plus 17 poles to 23 poles
>   > MP. 418 plus 13 poles
>   > MP. 420 plus 8 poles.
>   > 
>   > Andre Ming
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: "shabbona_rr" <user141771@>
>   > To: <[email protected]>
>   > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:35 AM
>   > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
>   > 
>   > > On Santa Fe, the nation's premier railroad, we figured 40 poles to the 
>   > > mile. Slow orders were based on poles (not pole length spacing) to 
> locate 
>   > > affected track, for instance, "3 Poles West of MP205 to 4 Poles west of 
> MP 
>   > > 206."
>   > >
>   > > Once a BN conductor was ridiculing me because they used feet instead of 
>   > > pole lengths. I asked him which he'd rather count from the train, poles 
> or 
>   > > feet
>   > >
>   > > Bob Nicholson ________________________________________
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- In [email protected], prorr@ wrote:
>   > >>
>   > >> Peter, Nice job, they look very relistic.If my memory serves me
>   > >> correctly,they were spaced about 80' apart. I can remember old head 
>   > >> engineers using
>   > >> them to calculate train length. Of course back then most cars were 40
>   > >> footers and every pole was 2 car lengths.They may have been 120' foot 
>   > >> apart but
>   > >> I'm thinking 80' is right.
>   > >>
>   > >> Gary Carmichael
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >> In a message dated 11/13/2010 9:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>   > >> pavanvliet@ writes:
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >> This week I finished installing 9 scratchbuilt telephone/telegraph 
> poles
>   > >> on part of the layout that is already in the scenery stage. I 
> documented
>   > >> the process of building them on my web site:
>   > >>
>   > >> _http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm_
>   > >> (http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm)
>   > >>
>   > >> Enjoy,
>   > >> - Peter.
>   > >> -- 
>   > >> Peter Vanvliet (_pavanvl...@_ (mailto:pavanvliet@) , or
>   > >> _pe...@_ (mailto:peter@) )
>   > >> Houston, Texas
>   > >>
>   > >> "It is easy to give up; anyone can do that..."
>   > >>
>   > >> _http://pmrr.org/_ (http://pmrr.org/) (my model railroad)
>   > >> _http://fourthray.com/_ (http://fourthray.com/) (my company)
>   > >> _http://houstonsgaugers.org/_ (http://houstonsgaugers.org/) (model
>   > >> railroad club)
>   > >> --
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>
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