That was my point. John Armstrong
----- Original Message -----
From: shabbona_rr
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
The difference, John, is that we had to know what we were doing.
--- In [email protected], "John" <armstong5...@...> wrote:
>
> In a fog you acted like management, or an MBA John Armstrong
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shabbona_rr
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
>
>
>
> No, that's where proper training comes in. An experienced railroader knew
where he was. Inexperienced railroaders learned by watching how they did it.
That's why it took at least four years of working experience before a trainman
could take promotion to conductor, and an engineer (at least on Southern
Pacific) needed eight years - just to be a yard engineer.
>
> Two weeks of book and computer training by smart alecky chalk-twirling
college boy instructors just don't cut it - especially today!
>
> How do you think we ran in the fog?
>
> Bob Nicholson ________________________________________
>
> --- In [email protected], Jim and Cheryl Martin <farnhamhouse@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm curious so maybe the professional railroaders can help me out here.
If you
> > get distracted and lose count of the poles, do you have to back the train
up and
> > start over?
> >
> > Just wondering
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Andre Ming <laming@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 10:36:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
> >
> >
> > We still use pole count on the A&M. 40 per mile.
> >
> > Of course, most of the original telegraph poles are long gone, so we have
> > miles marked in 10 pole increments to help orient slow orders/etc. All
this
> > week, I had slow orders that basically read:
> >
> > 10 MPH at:
> >
> > MP. 417 plus 17 poles to 23 poles
> > MP. 418 plus 13 poles
> > MP. 420 plus 8 poles.
> >
> > Andre Ming
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shabbona_rr" <user141771@>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
> >
> > > On Santa Fe, the nation's premier railroad, we figured 40 poles to the
> > > mile. Slow orders were based on poles (not pole length spacing) to
locate
> > > affected track, for instance, "3 Poles West of MP205 to 4 Poles west of
MP
> > > 206."
> > >
> > > Once a BN conductor was ridiculing me because they used feet instead of
> > > pole lengths. I asked him which he'd rather count from the train, poles
or
> > > feet
> > >
> > > Bob Nicholson ________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], prorr@ wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Peter, Nice job, they look very relistic.If my memory serves me
> > >> correctly,they were spaced about 80' apart. I can remember old head
> > >> engineers using
> > >> them to calculate train length. Of course back then most cars were 40
> > >> footers and every pole was 2 car lengths.They may have been 120' foot
> > >> apart but
> > >> I'm thinking 80' is right.
> > >>
> > >> Gary Carmichael
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 11/13/2010 9:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > >> pavanvliet@ writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This week I finished installing 9 scratchbuilt telephone/telegraph
poles
> > >> on part of the layout that is already in the scenery stage. I
documented
> > >> the process of building them on my web site:
> > >>
> > >> _http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm_
> > >> (http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm)
> > >>
> > >> Enjoy,
> > >> - Peter.
> > >> --
> > >> Peter Vanvliet (_pavanvl...@_ (mailto:pavanvliet@) , or
> > >> _pe...@_ (mailto:peter@) )
> > >> Houston, Texas
> > >>
> > >> "It is easy to give up; anyone can do that..."
> > >>
> > >> _http://pmrr.org/_ (http://pmrr.org/) (my model railroad)
> > >> _http://fourthray.com/_ (http://fourthray.com/) (my company)
> > >> _http://houstonsgaugers.org/_ (http://houstonsgaugers.org/) (model
> > >> railroad club)
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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