Bob,Ah,the good old days working with the air. We usually didn't have a
back up hose so when the hogger stopped he'd gives us some slack,pull ahead
like you said,and then we would open the angle cock till we got everything
lined up,give the air back and he'd know to back up.Like you said nothing
beats experience and knowing your territory.
8 & sand
Gary Carmichael
In a message dated 11/13/2010 5:30:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
It gets better as it goes on, Jim. I remember old heads telling me how they
set out 40 and 50 car blocks of cars in the fog. The engineer would know
where to stop based on landmarks, give the brakeman time to uncouple, then
pull ahead the correct distance, give the brakeman time to line the
switch(es) then shove into the set out track.
If the brakeman wasn't ready for the engineer to move at any time, he knew
how to take preventive measures in a way the engineer would know there was
something amiss, and not move until he knew it was safe to do so, all the
time completely out of sight of the brakeman until he shoved the cars into
the set out track.
It was a dangerous time, and not the place for inexperienced people, but
railroaders met these and other challenges and succeeded in overcoming them
on a daily basis. That's one reason I would have just about given up my
manhood just to have David P. Morgan and John Kneiling braking for me for a
week on the sixteen-hour-a-day local I was assigned to as a new conductor in
1970.
Bob Nicholson __________________________________________
--- In [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , Jim and
Cheryl Martin <farnhamho...@...> wrote:
>
> Bob and Andre:
>
> I was being facetious of course, but in the end came out learning
something.
> Wonder how many factoids I could pick up if I took things more seriously?
>
> Cheers'
> Jim
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: shabbona_rr <user141...@...>
> To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])
> Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 3:28:09 PM
> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
>
>
> No, that's where proper training comes in. An experienced railroader
knew where
> he was. Inexperienced railroaders learned by watching how they did it.
That's
> why it took at least four years of working experience before a trainman
could
> take promotion to conductor, and an engineer (at least on Southern
Pacific)
> needed eight years - just to be a yard engineer.
>
> Two weeks of book and computer training by smart alecky chalk-twirling
college
> boy instructors just don't cut it - especially today!
>
> How do you think we ran in the fog?
>
> Bob Nicholson ________________________________________
>
> --- In [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , Jim
and Cheryl Martin <farnhamhouse@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm curious so maybe the professional railroaders can help me out
here. If you
> >
> > get distracted and lose count of the poles, do you have to back the
train up
> >and
> >
> > start over?
> >
> > Just wondering
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Andre Ming <laming@>
> > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])
> > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 10:36:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
> >
> >
> > We still use pole count on the A&M. 40 per mile.
> >
> > Of course, most of the original telegraph poles are long gone, so we
have
> > miles marked in 10 pole increments to help orient slow orders/etc. All
this
> > week, I had slow orders that basically read:
> >
> > 10 MPH at:
> >
> > MP. 417 plus 17 poles to 23 poles
> > MP. 418 plus 13 poles
> > MP. 420 plus 8 poles.
> >
> > Andre Ming
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "shabbona_rr" <user141771@>
> > To: <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF
> >
> > > On Santa Fe, the nation's premier railroad, we figured 40 poles to
the
> > > mile. Slow orders were based on poles (not pole length spacing) to
locate
> > > affected track, for instance, "3 Poles West of MP205 to 4 Poles west
of MP
> > > 206."
> > >
> > > Once a BN conductor was ridiculing me because they used feet instead
of
> > > pole lengths. I asked him which he'd rather count from the train,
poles or
> > > feet
> > >
> > > Bob Nicholson ________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ,
prorr@ wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Peter, Nice job, they look very relistic.If my memory serves me
> > >> correctly,they were spaced about 80' apart. I can remember old head
> > >> engineers using
> > >> them to calculate train length. Of course back then most cars were
40
> > >> footers and every pole was 2 car lengths.They may have been 120'
foot
> > >> apart but
> > >> I'm thinking 80' is right.
> > >>
> > >> Gary Carmichael
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 11/13/2010 9:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > >> pavanvliet@ writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This week I finished installing 9 scratchbuilt telephone/telegraph
poles
> > >> on part of the layout that is already in the scenery stage. I
documented
> > >> the process of building them on my web site:
> > >>
> > >> __http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm__
(http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm_)
> > >> (_http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm_
(http://pmrr.org/Articles/Scenery/TelegraphPoles.htm) )
> > >>
> > >> Enjoy,
> > >> - Peter.
> > >> --
> > >> Peter Vanvliet (_pavanvl...@_ (mailto:pavanvliet@) , or
> > >> _pe...@_ (mailto:peter@) )
> > >> Houston, Texas
> > >>
> > >> "It is easy to give up; anyone can do that..."
> > >>
> > >> __http://pmrr.org/__ (http://pmrr.org/_) (_http://pmrr.org/_
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> > >> __http://fourthray.com/__ (http://fourthray.com/_)
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> > >> __http://houstonsgaugers.org/__ (http://houstonsgaugers.org/_)
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> > >> railroad club)
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