Appreciate the link; I shall probably use them routinely for any conversions 
with Ace bolsters from now on (otherwise I tend to favor the
Kadee S #802's with occasional recourse to the SHS couplers for special 
applications).

The caboose conversion is coming along nicely: I sawed off the cast roofwalks 
(should have been a bit more careful, but to some extent
this is pretty much a trial run--I am using one of what I assume is one of the 
later production cars with the stamped one-piece floor and
ends, actually easier for my purposes than the ones with the floors riveted to 
the body).  The floor is going quickly with styrene sheet and
shapes and is not going to be a precise, contest-quality, result, but should 
look quite adequate as a representation of the prototype.  I am using O scale 
"northeastern" type cars (Weaver plastic, Sunset brass, West Shore urethane 
kit) for inspiration rather than the scale drawings and data that appeared in 
RMC twelve or fifteen years ago, but I think it will come out well enough.

I think I have now procured as many AF twin hoppers as I am ever likely to want 
to convert; after all, I now own at least thirty SHS, AM and SSA better-quality 
hoppers as well.  I am starting to run out of the Ace conversion bolster 
castings I stocked up on in Duluth, so do any dealers have some they want to 
unload?

Any dealers want to sell me the Walthers couplers so they get the profit rather 
than Walthers?

Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.







> http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=CPLRS+TRKS&scale=H&manu=Walthers&item=&keywords=Proto+Max&words=restrict&instock=Q&split=30&Submit=Search
> 
> I use these almost exclusively since I found them. Walthers does not promote 
> them, so they are kind of hard to find on their web site. I never noticed 
> much difference in slack action, but then my eyes are not as sharp as some of 
> the young guys on this list.
> 
> The short shank version will work on S Helper cars by simply reaaming and 
> tapping 1-72 the coupler mounting hole that is already there on those cars. 
> You can ream the mounting holes in the coupler boxes to 2-56, if you have to, 
> for other brands. I've done them both ways.
> 
> Bob Nicholson  __________________________________________
> 
> > > > > Thomas Baker wrote:
> > > > > Walthers Kadee Clones?  
> > > > > I didn't know Walthers made such a product.
> > > > 
> > > > Walthers makes and sells a Kadee-like coupler that is slightly larger 
> > > > than the true Kadee #5 coupler.  Some folks like it beause it is bigger 
> > > > and closer to an S-sized coupler.  When I tried a pair, I noticed there 
> > > > is a lot more slack action between the coupled knuckles.  I prefer the 
> > > > genuine Kadees with a tighter/closer fit with less slack action.  Ed L.
> --- In [email protected], JGG KahnSr <jacek...@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I'll drink (a cup of cappuccino) to that.  Until the past year of so, my 
> > only use for HO Kadees was for On2, so I hadn't kept up on developments.  I 
> > did notice in passing that after the Kadee basic patents expired that 
> > clones started appearing (McHenry being one
> > that I recall seeing advertised).  Need one order direct from Walthers for 
> > such sales, or can any retail dealer get them less discount
> > to sell at that price?
> > 
> > Jace Kahn
> > 
> > General Manager 
> > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > From: raisin...@...
> > > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 03:47:39 +0000
> > > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Walthers Couplers
> > > 
> > > Some of us use the Walther's couplers because you can buy 20 pair for 20 
> > > bucks when they are on sale...  "Cheap" being a decidedly strong 
> > > influence in S Scale. <G>
> > > 
> > > Jim Kindraka
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Ed" <Loizeaux@> wrote:
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
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