I probably could have done a neater job on getting the roofwalks off if I'd 
been more patient, but this is a sort of quick-and-dirty
job rather than a contest-quality one (if I do it again I'll be more careful 
getting the cast-on handrails off, too).  My concern was to
do the essential fixing to make it look like something from 6-12" away; if I 
were REALLY serious I expect I'd be scratchbuilding it
rather than accepting the compromises necessary in using the AF body (whose 
proportions/dimensions seem quite good).

Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.







> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:04:08 +0000
> Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Ace Parts/AF Caboose  (was Walthers Couplers)
> 
> Jace:
> 
> When I did #101 (see "{Files" under "Bob Nicholson") many moons ago, I used a 
> milling wheel in a Dremel tool and machined the roofwalks off. Slow going, 
> but if you're careful it can be done.
> 
> I think I still have the end platform grab iron jig I used to make the 
> platform grab irons for the caboose steps.
> 
> I do know I have two caboose bodies with metal floors and Ace conversion 
> bolsters already installed. They wer supposed to be #'s 102 and 103, but 
> somebody steered me onto the Santa Fe caboose bodies from Industrial Rail. 
> That was before American Models came out with their wood caboose, which would 
> have been more appropriate.
> 
> Bob Nicholson  __________________________________________
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], JGG KahnSr <jacek...@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > The caboose conversion is coming along nicely: I sawed off the cast 
> > roofwalks (should have been a bit more careful, but to some extent
> > this is pretty much a trial run--I am using one of what I assume is one of 
> > the later production cars with the stamped one-piece floor and
> > ends, actually easier for my purposes than the ones with the floors riveted 
> > to the body).  The floor is going quickly with styrene sheet and
> > shapes and is not going to be a precise, contest-quality, result, but 
> > should look quite adequate as a representation of the prototype.  I am 
> > using O scale "northeastern" type cars (Weaver plastic, Sunset brass, West 
> > Shore urethane kit) for inspiration rather than the scale drawings and data 
> > that appeared in RMC twelve or fifteen years ago, but I think it will come 
> > out well enough.
> > 
> > I think I have now procured as many AF twin hoppers as I am ever likely to 
> > want to convert; after all, I now own at least thirty SHS, AM and SSA 
> > better-quality hoppers as well.  I am starting to run out of the Ace 
> > conversion bolster castings I stocked up on in Duluth, so do any dealers 
> > have some they want to unload?
> > 
> > Any dealers want to sell me the Walthers couplers so they get the profit 
> > rather than Walthers?
> > 
> > Jace Kahn
> > 
> > General Manager 
> > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=CPLRS+TRKS&scale=H&manu=Walthers&item=&keywords=Proto+Max&words=restrict&instock=Q&split=30&Submit=Search
> > > 
> > > I use these almost exclusively since I found them. Walthers does not 
> > > promote them, so they are kind of hard to find on their web site. I never 
> > > noticed much difference in slack action, but then my eyes are not as 
> > > sharp as some of the young guys on this list.
> > > 
> > > The short shank version will work on S Helper cars by simply reaaming and 
> > > tapping 1-72 the coupler mounting hole that is already there on those 
> > > cars. You can ream the mounting holes in the coupler boxes to 2-56, if 
> > > you have to, for other brands. I've done them both ways.
> > > 
> > > Bob Nicholson  __________________________________________
> > > 
> > > > > > > Thomas Baker wrote:
> > > > > > > Walthers Kadee Clones?  
> > > > > > > I didn't know Walthers made such a product.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Walthers makes and sells a Kadee-like coupler that is slightly 
> > > > > > larger than the true Kadee #5 coupler.  Some folks like it beause 
> > > > > > it is bigger and closer to an S-sized coupler.  When I tried a 
> > > > > > pair, I noticed there is a lot more slack action between the 
> > > > > > coupled knuckles.  I prefer the genuine Kadees with a 
> > > > > > tighter/closer fit with less slack action.  Ed L.
> > > --- In [email protected], JGG KahnSr <jacekahn@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I'll drink (a cup of cappuccino) to that.  Until the past year of so, 
> > > > my only use for HO Kadees was for On2, so I hadn't kept up on 
> > > > developments.  I did notice in passing that after the Kadee basic 
> > > > patents expired that clones started appearing (McHenry being one
> > > > that I recall seeing advertised).  Need one order direct from Walthers 
> > > > for such sales, or can any retail dealer get them less discount
> > > > to sell at that price?
> > > > 
> > > > Jace Kahn
> > > > 
> > > > General Manager 
> > > > Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > From: raisinone@
> > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 03:47:39 +0000
> > > > > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Walthers Couplers
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some of us use the Walther's couplers because you can buy 20 pair for 
> > > > > 20 bucks when they are on sale...  "Cheap" being a decidedly strong 
> > > > > influence in S Scale. <G>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jim Kindraka
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ed" <Loizeaux@> wrote:
> > > > > >
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