I believe both AM and SHS offer semi-scale turnouts that are an enormous 
improvement on AF turnouts, although they are not inexpensive enough to 
possibly tempt
an HO or N scale modeler to move up to S scale.  A similar problem prevails 
even in O scale, where the market is rather larger: Atlas DOES offer fairly 
scale (although
fairly heavy rail) turnouts starting at $50 per, as I recall (never bought any 
myself), which does afford ready-to-install track system there if one doesn't 
mind the cost.
In the past year or so San Juan had introduced both On3 flextrack AND #6 
turnouts (ready for either hand-throw or machine), both well-reviewed, with the 
turnouts going
for $25 each.  This is a major breakthrough, as previously one generally 
hand-laid track (PSC offers more traditional flextrack but no turnouts), and 
just about all the 
turnouts I can think of were only rail, ready to be spiked in place.
Hard to guess whether the On3 market is larger than S scale...  Actually, both 
Shinohara (Scenery Unlimited) and PBL offer Sn3 flextrack and turnouts 
ready-made and matched.
Which, I suppose, brings us back to the conundrum that the S scale market is 
probably too small to offer the economies of scale that those used to smaller 
scales would find attactive.
 
Jace Kahn 
General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. 




 > Where does one start in this conversation? I agree with Dave that motorized 
 > is potentially a separate but related issue. If we confine ourselves to 
 > 'scale' - code 100 or smaller there is Shinohara #8 and #6 on plastic ties. 
 > The #6 has issues and perhaps providing 'assistance' to retool it may be a 
 > place to start. Tomalco has it's own glued to wood ties thus avoiding 
 > tooling for ties altogether and that allows for multiple rail weights. Quite 
 > clever but weathering is required to blend the wood switch ties to the 
 > plastic flex ties.
> 
> Otherwise the scale/gauge seems too balkanized for an economically viable 
> solution. What constitutes 'scale'? Is SHS' fine effort to bridge the gap 
> from hi-rail to scale to be left out? A suite of switches, crossings and what 
> not would greatly increase it's appeal to many considering their flex track 
> product. 
> 
> Hi-rail wise SHS has it's #4, AM has it's 27" radius for code 148 as does Am. 
> S-Gauge for it's code 172. Gargraves has it's own switches and etc.
> 
> Heading down to the basement to start fabrication of another turnout for a 
> passing siding. #8 BTW. 
> Ben Trousdale
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ctxmf74" <ctxm@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], tennsgauge@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree completely with Dick on the need for flex-track-compatible 
> > > motorized turnouts. The lack of this is bound to turn away a number of 
> > > converts. 
> > 
> > Well, HO and N gaugers would certainly want flextrack compatible turnouts 
> > if they were thinking of switching to S but they wouldn't want them 
> > motorized. All scale modelers are used to installing their own switch throw 
> > mechanism , either a tortoise style motor or a bluepoint hand throw or a 
> > caboose ground throw typically. Motorized turnouts are more from the three 
> > rail O or Kato unitrack realm. A line of flextrack compatable code 100 DCC 
> > ready scale turnouts in #5 and #7 frog angles similiar to the Atlas or 
> > Microengineering HO product would be a nice place to start....dave
> >
> 
> 
> 
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