Ok, I hoped this would die away, but since it isn't yet I'd like to contest a few "facts" presented by a couple of members.
Ed L. says: > Only RTR with giant couplers is available from those firms > these days unless > you want to modify their standard products to become scale > compatible. Really? AFAIK SHS still provides scale wheels with all their models except the 2-8-0. I haven't checked with AM or DPS, but I doubt they have removed the scale wheel option from their order forms, please correct me if I am wrong. > And Jim King is the only fellow > making "NEW" S scale > rolling stock these days. A couple of weeks ago there was a thread about DPS producing an SD-45, with photos of the test shots, right on this list. Granted, it isn't available yet, but I doubt Ron paid for that tooling to just let it sit. Andy at MLW Services has a few new cars coming out, strictly scale. Some guy on the West Coast also is rumored to have an SP GS gon coming out, tied to some obscure event happening out there. Not sure where I heard that rumor... > if there is product > available, why wouldn't > children be attracted to AF or S hi-rail for the same > reasons as many of us > were back in the 1950s? They might, but children may also be attracted to the more available HO models as well. Their parents, if looking for a hobby of their own, may be more attracted to the realistic models offered in other scales. Then Bill Winans adds: > The thought came to me that scale > layouts at shows will probably always be > fewer in number than the AF/Hi-rail versions > if only because they are less > forgiving of poor track alignments. The Flyer guys always seem to hit me with this one. Clearly the S Scale Workshop clearly don't agree. As Ed L. pointed out, the HO modular layouts that outnumber ours 4-5 to 1, the On30 modular layouts, etc. seem able to deal with the issue. Then there is a group with some of the earliest modular standards, and one of the largest groups, N-Trak. Are we really such poor builders that we can't make workable modules in scale while N and HO modelers can? Pieter E. Roos --- On Thu, 2/24/11, Edward Loizeaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gents. > > > > I'd like to comment on the above thought. Not > necessarily to disagree, but > to ask where is the evidence? Opinions are great (I > have lots of them), but > is the above thought an opinion or something more > substantial based on > factual evidence? > > > > Lessee now...Lionel is now making AF stuff after decades of > ignoring it. > SHS, AM, DPH, etc. all say hi-rail is well over 85% percent > of their sales. > Only RTR with giant couplers is available from those firms > these days unless > you want to modify their standard products to become scale > compatible. I > keep hearing of new clubs that are taking the hi-rail route > for their > modular display layouts. I don't recall hearing of > any brand new S scale > clubs (code 100 rail or smaller) in recent years with a > sizeable scale > modular display layout. There might be some, but I > just don't recall > hearing about them. And Jim King is the only fellow > making "NEW" S scale > rolling stock these days. Yes, BTS has a lot of scale > rolling stock > available, but how much of it is brand new in the past year > or so? (Not a > criticism, just an observation. Hold the firepower.) > > > > I would tend to think that a 3-rail O gauge fellow would be > quite happy to > convert to S hi-rail. He loses the middle rail and > can fit more trains into > his layout space. Some HO fellas might be happy to > convert to S hi-rail > since they are losing their eyesight faster than I am > losing my hair. Not > to mention shaking hands. And, if there is product > available, why wouldn't > children be attracted to AF or S hi-rail for the same > reasons as many of us > were back in the 1950s? > > > > So I ask, is Brother Werre's statement above really fact or > opinion? I know > where Brother Karnes stands on this issue, but what about > the rest of you? > Or are we all going down the path of negative group think? > > > > And, just to contrast things, what factual evidence is > there that S scale is > actually growing? Opinion or fact? > > > > Cheers.Ed L. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
