From: Alan Lambert
         Lone Star Flyer Club
         Arlington,Texas
 
I think the Scale guys are missing a screw. The bolsters  could be cast for 
high rail and the scale heads could take a file or drimel tool with sanding 
disc and do a 2 minute modification. Problem I see is that they don't want to 
make a profit. Can't anything they make, be made within 3 weeks and shipped. 
That is order recieved  3week manufacture, and ship to customer.  My 2 cents 
worth.  Their attitude is keeping me from ordering any thing from them.
                                   Alan Lambert

--- On Wed, 4/13/11, Carey Probst <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Carey Probst <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SAL Roundroof boxcar
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 9:05 AM


I am missing something here. Why does hi rail have to be less detailed? 
My definition of hi rail is scale details with big flanges on the wheels.

If I had a clue what an SAL car was I might be interested in a scale one 
but I plan to run a combination of AF, hi rail and scale because I am 
not a purist and accept the need for an adapter car to bridge the 
coupler styles.

Carey

Carey Probst

Member, M.I.T. Educational Council

S Scale, Sn3 and S High Rail/AF

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


On 4/13/2011 7:14 AM, John Degnan wrote:
>
> I developed the term "backwards compatable" about 2 years ago when I 
> started my box car project to deal with S folks who were pushing me to 
> make my model to AF standards with the OPTION for "forward 
> compatability" to scale with the addition of a few extra super-detail 
> parts (at a higher cost for the extra, super-detail parts). I 
> personally believe that this is one of S scale's biggest problems... 
> when the rest of the modeling world sees S models, they generelly see 
> AF... not scale. So I believe that since technology is improving on a 
> daily basis, and that since AF is now basically DEAD, that S offerings 
> should be just the opposite - they should be "backwards compatable" to 
> AF standards instead of "forward compatable" to scale standards. If a 
> AF nut wants to chop up a nicely scaled model to fit their crappy 
> looking wheels and couplers on it... so be it. But scale modelers 
> should not have to pay for any extra super detail parts to improve an 
> already very expensive model produced with modern technology.
>
> So... as far as I'm concerned... AF folks can chop, chop away on my 
> super-nice models (if I ever produce any) if they want... but that 
> model will be coming out of the box intended for and configured for 
> SCALE. To coin a few terms - Uglification (on the AF guys' part) 
> instead of Prettification (on the scale guys' part)... that is how I 
> see it... giving AF guys the back seat instead of the scale guys.
>
> Now... if you ever get the nerve... ask me about another term I coined 
> not too long back - REVERSE PROTOTYPING.
>
> John Degnan
> [email protected] <mailto:JohnnyReb69%40comcast.net>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gsc3
> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} SAL Roundroof boxcar
>
> Fully understand your point, John. And I fully agree that anything you 
> produce must be to your standards. My question was directed to the 
> fact that there might not need be any sacrifice of accuracy or any 
> compromise in the production on your end.
>
> George Courtney
>
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, 
> "John Degnan" <Scaler164@...> wrote:
> >
> > And for the record... none of my projects will ever be hi-rail 
> compatable... sales or not. I'm not in the marked for toys, so I won't 
> produce them, either. (or sacrifice the accuracy of a model for the 
> sake of compatability) I'd just rather not produce the model.
> >
> > My ten cents worth.
> >
> >
> > John Degnan
> > Scaler164@...
> >
> >
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> >
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