OK Bill,
Let's avoid third party speculations.  Do you have the masters and the patterns?
Jamie Bothwell
Bethlehem, PA

--- In [email protected], "dphobbies" <dphobbies@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> 
> Of course you are correct, except we are talking about the patterns here, not 
> just castings of containers.  Bill got the patterns, the originals - from a 
> dead guys estate.  Without limitations, he can do as he wishes.
> 
> Put more simply, If you buy one of Jim Kings kits, you do not have the right 
> to copy it and sell it to others, but if he or sells you the patterns 
> (masters) without express limitations, you can make them all day long and 
> give them away.
> 
> The only false impressions here are the ones raised as to ownership from 
> "third" parties.  If the estate did not have the right to sell them, then 
> that is another issue.  That clearly is not the issue here.
> I stand by what I said.  Bill bought and paid for them.  They are his to do 
> withas he wishes.  If they really weren't Stans (and susequently his estates) 
> to sell, the real owner had been an idiot not retrieving them.
> 
> I stand by what I said. On to the next topic.
> 
> Ron Sebastian
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ctxmf74" <ctxm@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Pieter Roos <pieter_roos@> wrote:
> > >
> > > All;
> > > 
> > > I think Ron is saying that Stan's estate is presumably not interested, 
> > > and Ed L. (who possibly paid for some number of the originals, which 
> > > might or might not matter) is on this list and has not raised an 
> > > objection at this point, so there is little reason to assume anyone has 
> > > an interest in asserting a prior right to the models.
> > > 
> > 
> >   That might be true if Ed is off moderation and free to post what he 
> > wants? 
> >   If Ron knows that the sale of the containers included  the rights to copy 
> > the product he could have saved us a lot of trouble by stating that instead 
> > of stating that one who pays for a product with his money then has the 
> > right to copy and sell them without limitations? People on the list should 
> > not be given false impressions about their rights to copy and sell any 
> > purchased products. ....dave
> >
>




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