DAve, I might be wrong about the diners. It may have been the NH that had the diners with six-wheel trucks. Do you know why the MP had those cars ordered with six-wheel trucks. I wondered if it was for service on the Aztec Eagle in pre Drug-Lord days.
Tom ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of David Engle [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Stainless Steel I remember seeing 3 MoP sleepers on 6-wheel trucks at Sedalia shop many years ago, did not know they had diners so equipped. DJE ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Baker To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Stainless Steel Jamie, I just started paying attention to this post today. I did not know that the cars BUDD produced for MP, GN, PRR, DL&W, NP had no side fluting. I have always been under the impression that it was covered up with horizontal sheathing. One learns something new every day. Another point: Some of those MP diners and, I think, some of the BUDD sleeping cars, had six-wheel trucks. Never knew why. Tom ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Bob Werre [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Stainless Steel Not to start a war, but hey it's Friday so what the H! You can talk about all the normal builders...Budd, Pullman and ACF, but the real innovation came from the Milwaukee Road shops with their horizonial ribs and fine rolling Nystrom trucks! Nearly all the Milwaukee's cars were home built in where else...Milwaukee along with many fine brands of beer! Bob Werre PhotoTraxx.com On 6/24/11 6:42 AM, Jamie Bothwell wrote: > > Rollie and any one else who cares, > Technically Budd had a patent on the welding of stainless steel. A > process they called "shot welding". To the best of my knowledge there > are no Budd built cars without fluted roofs, but they produced many > cars for several railroads that had what modelers have termed "slab > sides". These cars had three large steel bars that run the length of > the car under the windows. The fluting that we modelers, especially > ones from California, find so appealing was intended to add strength > to the car body. Therefore when Budd built cars without the flutes for > the likes of the PRR, MP, DL&W, and others I'd have to look up, they > had to add the "slabs" to increase the strength of the fluteless > sides. The only cars I know of that were not built by Budd, but had > fluted roofs were a series of sleepers built for the PRR and ACL where > Pullman bought the roofs from Budd and licensed the shot welding > process. They screwed it up the first time and had to buy more roofs. > The stainless overlays of the Cor-Ten cars caused bad rusting of the > Cor-Ten which is why very few of these cars made it to Amtrak. > Jamie Bothwell > Bethlehem, PA > > On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Rollain Mercier wrote: > > > Incidentally, the cars were meant to be models of Pullman smooth side > > steel cars. Budd had the patents on stainless cars at that time and > > all of them were fluted. Pullman did produce some fluted side cars in > > the fifties but they were overlays on regular (or Cor-Ten) steel > > sides. The New Haven had a bunch of 'em. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
